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dlk

(11,566 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:07 AM Oct 2018

The Very Common Hyper-Misogyny, as Demonstrated by Kavanaugh, is Backlash from the Women's Movement

Too many men (and unfortunately women, too) view women as inferior. The very idea of treating women fairly (e.g., equal rights, equal pay, etc.) is an anathema to them. They require someone to look down on and misuse. We have far to go.

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The Very Common Hyper-Misogyny, as Demonstrated by Kavanaugh, is Backlash from the Women's Movement (Original Post) dlk Oct 2018 OP
When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. Croney Oct 2018 #1
+1 mercuryblues Oct 2018 #3
Having someone threaten that privilege YessirAtsaFact Oct 2018 #17
I agree with this BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #2
While I agree with you... Zoonart Oct 2018 #6
Ever since the 2000 SCOTUS selection of Shrub BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #9
No investigation into vote tampering on a broad scale in 2000...none in 2016... Zoonart Oct 2018 #11
If you "no longer believe in the voter turnout thing" then how do you explain this? BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #15
Really? Zoonart Oct 2018 #18
Then you shouldn't be complaining. BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #19
what was the excuse for the misogyny before the women's movement? Fresh_Start Oct 2018 #4
This this this!!! The whole "backlash" idea, though I am sure Squinch Oct 2018 #7
"what was the excuse for the misogyny before the women's movement?" BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #12
The misogyny is also propagated by religion Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #5
Just like PBO brought all the racists out of the woodwork Freddie Oct 2018 #8
The Women's Movement began in the 60s. Demit Oct 2018 #10
The 60's was 2nd wave Feminism Greybnk48 Oct 2018 #14
See post #12 BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #16
The current male backlash is not due to women getting the vote in the 1920s. Demit Oct 2018 #20
Kavanaugh is an amalgam of the Rush Limbaugh/Feminazi generation Greybnk48 Oct 2018 #13

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
2. I agree with this
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:13 AM
Oct 2018

The "pussy hat" marches and sexual harassment suits (and public punishment of high level folks across many different occupations) have rattled GOP men to their core and as I have posted before, this is their "last stand" to maintain the patriarchy that they grew up with, and are entrenched in.

Zoonart

(11,866 posts)
6. While I agree with you...
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:20 AM
Oct 2018

I also think that this is the beginning of a gaslight-ing campaign to make it easy for them to steal this election too. The narrative is beginning to emerge...the races are tightening. Kav is energizing the Republican base....BULLSHIT! The Democratic wave is dissappearing...etc., etc. BULLSHIT!

All to make us believe the vote totals they present us with showing that the Republicans have held on to control of power by the narrowest of margins.
The Russians are meddling in our elections! Don't forget it. They did not spend tens of millions of dollars on getting Rump into the white house and getting the thugs into power, just to hand it off the the Democrats over a little thing like voting.

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
9. Ever since the 2000 SCOTUS selection of Shrub
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:34 AM
Oct 2018

We have insisted, literally every year for 18 years, that "the next election will be 'stolen'" - and this reached a fever pitch when Obama was President for both terms. If you look at posts here on DU, it was rampant.

The key here, regardless of Russian hacking and influence peddling, is turnout and literal door-to-door making sure that potential voters are REGISTERED, confirmed to be REGISTERED, and able to get to a polling place (carpools, van pools, or whatever it takes).

When you have a large turnout, it's hard to tamper or the tampering cannot overcome the real turnout or it will be too obvious and will be outed.

But also keep in mind that outside parties operate on behalf of their own interests which are not strictly whatever the GOP dishes out. They will "fund" whoever promotes their interests.

Zoonart

(11,866 posts)
11. No investigation into vote tampering on a broad scale in 2000...none in 2016...
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:43 AM
Oct 2018

Sorry, I no longer believe in the voter turnout thing. I'm not saying that we should not drive huge turnout. We should, but I no longer belive in fair elections in the USA.

Say we get every Dem. in the country, just for S&G, to the polls and then we are told that we lost. Who will investigate? Then what?

My guess... is some heated rhetoric... a couple of marches and then acceptance.

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
15. If you "no longer believe in the voter turnout thing" then how do you explain this?
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:00 AM
Oct 2018




The "investigations" have to happen in each state at this point. And part of the issue of "states" is our ceding many of our states, by lack of a turnout, to the GOP. With new "Indivisible" movement (and other groups) that is nationwide in every state, there is an infrastructure being put in place to help brand new candidates to run in places where no Democrat ever even bothered to run. People have and continue to be trained at how to participate as a full citizen of this country. We also have orgs, like Eric Holder's National Democratic Redistricting Committee which has been going state by state to file suit (along with the League of Women Voters) and/or help Democrats get their federal/state/local districts redrawn via legislation within that state, to reduce or eliminate the gerrymandering. The effort was successful here in PA where our entire congressional map was redrawn, and we have a potential to get up to 5 additional Democratic congress members from PA alone.

These are the types of steps that if sustained, will start to get us where we need to be.

Are you involved in any of those organizations?

Zoonart

(11,866 posts)
18. Really?
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:11 AM
Oct 2018

I worked for the Bergen county, NJ, Board of Elections, I am a member of Planned Parenthood, PFLAG, NARAL, Women's League for Peace and Freedom, Local indivisible, local Dem. committee. More? I have been involved in the local and national planning of demonstrations for women's reproductive freedom for the past 40+ years.
What I am conveying to you is my loss of faith in fair elections. Not my lack of involvement.

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
19. Then you shouldn't be complaining.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:15 AM
Oct 2018


As a black woman, I never ever ever thought I'd EVER see a black President elected in my lifetime. Yet here we are and he was elected TWICE.

How many fucking black people do you think have "lost faith in fair elections" - especially when we were never initially given the right to vote and then when we were, we have and continue to be stymied for trying to do so. YET WE KEEP DOING IT ANYWAY.

If black women in Alabama had believed what you believe, then Doug Jones would have never been elected.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
4. what was the excuse for the misogyny before the women's movement?
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:16 AM
Oct 2018

this is not a backlash to the women's movement....
this has been present forever
that men are starting to notice is due to the women's movement

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
7. This this this!!! The whole "backlash" idea, though I am sure
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:27 AM
Oct 2018

the OP didn't mean it this way, puts some of the responsibility for misogyny on the women's movement. This couldn't be further from the truth and we shouldn't be pushing it.

BumRushDaShow

(129,012 posts)
12. "what was the excuse for the misogyny before the women's movement?"
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:46 AM
Oct 2018

Much of the world operates as a patriarchy by default. However there have been periods over thousands of years where women "protested" and made some gains, but then a backlash occurred and women were put back in their place.

Specifically here in the U.S., early on in the last century after WW1 decimated many of the men in this country, you had this -





...progress was made, an Amendment to the Constitution was passed to get women the right to vote, and then much of the rancor died down until (some) men in power found a way to regain control of the "superior" narrative, where a "new" image of a "woman" was introduced to carefully indoctrinate future generations of women into accepting subservient roles -



Wash. Rinse. Repeat. We are in the new cycle now.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
5. The misogyny is also propagated by religion
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:18 AM
Oct 2018

What can we do to fix that? It's a huge problem. People are taught to believe this stuff from when they first learned to walk and talk.

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
8. Just like PBO brought all the racists out of the woodwork
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:30 AM
Oct 2018

And somehow made it “ok” to let your racist flag fly. Making sure women stay “in their place” (or giving lip service to the idea) is perfectly fine now. Imagine if HRC was President.
And the women enablers? They benefit from the male privilege via their husbands. And typical Republicans, they can’t conceive that not everyone does.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
10. The Women's Movement began in the 60s.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:35 AM
Oct 2018

There are more recent catalysts for this burst of malevolence towards women.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
14. The 60's was 2nd wave Feminism
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:59 AM
Oct 2018

In the 60's, we were standing on the shoulders of the first wave feminists who laid the ground work and got us the vote.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-wave_feminism

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
20. The current male backlash is not due to women getting the vote in the 1920s.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:41 AM
Oct 2018

It's because women got more independence from men: being able to support ourselves financially, and being able to control whether we get pregnant or not.

I appreciate your knowledge of history, but the above is what men (neanderthal men) can't stand.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
13. Kavanaugh is an amalgam of the Rush Limbaugh/Feminazi generation
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:53 AM
Oct 2018

and an anti-woman/misogynistic Catholic upbringing. However, there are lots of young men who did not embrace this bigotry.

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