Wow. New Jennifer Rubin tweets on Kavanaugh coverup, motions to recuse, and impeachment

[highplainsdem]

Starting here:

Link to tweet

Kavanaugh cover up is the dumbest every. Next yr. Jud Chair Jerry Nadler calls all the witnesses, calls FBI officials who were restricted in investig. In no time they have impeachment articles.


In the meantime any Dem group that will have a case heard by Kavanaugh should now make a motion to recuse. It's malpractice not to. If nothing else his 5-4 votes will come as the product of bias and fraud.

[brooklynite]

1. House impeaches, Senates refuses to convict, voters grumble that nobody's addressing their needs...

[Hermit-The-Prog]

2. m$m says both sides, tribalism, repugs on sunday talk shows

[Maven]

5. You're right. Let's keep letting it slide.

Business as usual right? And we wonder why 100M people who are eligible to vote don’t bother?

[brooklynite]

7. None of the candidates I've talked to say that voters have Trump and Kavanaugh on their minds...

[Maven]

9. Then they are either monumentally bad at politics or stunningly out of touch.

They should find another profession.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

12. The voters i know can walk and chew gum...and they are aware of all of it.

The rest are armchair pol's who have little to no political Science/Civics chops to begin with. We have to cover it all. EVERYDAY. Just my opinion.

[JHan]

21. Yup, if candidates encounter voters who don't care, it's an opportunity to educate.

[marybourg]

10. The voters I know sure do!

[ZZenith]

38. This canard again?

Trump’s stench has permeated every nook and cranny of American social life and you expect us to believe that we voters don’t have him on our minds.

FFS.

[OhNo-Really]

13. You have a knack today for being first commentator but with only disparaging words

Do you want to share your discouragement with us? Maybe we can help you find some hope that we can win this public opinion war.

[brooklynite]

17. Not interesting in winning a public opinion war...

I'm interested in winning elections and governing. If you impeach and DON'T CONVICT, you have effectively acquitted Kavanaugh in the eyes of the public. You have also reinforced the belief among swing voters that neither Party will actually focus on the issues (health care, jobs, education) that they're concerned about, which reduces the chance that you'll be elected again.

[OhNo-Really]

19. I see your point; however, public opinion sways elections.

public opinion can be sought before any impeachment proceeds

We do have many important fish to fry for sure.

[Fiendish Thingy]

20. Why must it be impeachment not indictment?

Kavanaugh could be indicted for perjury, among many other possible charges- I’d like to see him hear SC cases will staying at the gray bar hotel...

[Maven]

34. This is such nonsense and I'm tired of it.

The notion that we just need to talk to voters about kitchen table issues and we'll start winning again is absolute bunk. There is so much evidence that people don't vote for policy preferences aligned with their economic self-interest that to continue to make this argument is laughable. We are engaged in a procedural and propaganda war against a rogue party that has abandoned democracy and wants one-party rule. People want investigations and they want accountability.

This time is different. We CANNOT simply pretend that things will go back to the business of governing. The GOP is trying to radically transform the nation and they are no longer interested in joint governance!

And P.S., the way to not get reelected is to allow Republicans to steamroll you without consequences and thereby demoralize your voters so that they don't bother showing up at the polls. Ask the Republican majorities in the House and Senate if impeaching Bill Clinton hurt them in the long run.

[Grasswire2]

22. this

It's a trend.

[calimary]

33. You know what? There's NOTHING wrong with putting that black mark on his record

for ALL TIME.

Let him go into the history books with a VERY special and historic distinction. An IMPEACHMENT.

If we can get the House back, we’ll have the votes in committee AND on the House floor. It may not go anywhere in the Senate, but that big blemish will be the first sentence in his obituary. For ALL time.

Further, when these “wavering” Senators come up for re-election, we can hang their “yes” votes on Kavanaugh around their necks like mill stones. And maybe send them back to the private sector, installing better and more worthy candidates in those positions.

Frankly, if our Dems DON’T do this, if they slink back into their spinelessness, then they don’t deserve to have the majorities we voters may be about to hand them. The Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee gave me hope. I kept thinking “WOW! They’re giving us a reason to vote for them! They’re literally fighting to represent us. They’re actually showing a backbone! For a change! Some grit. Some guts. Not just shrugging timidly and throwing in the towel early and doing the infuriating “oh okaaaaaay...” cave act. Which has been the default position into which they always inevitably seem to fall back. Not this time.

Perhaps, also, this will FINALLY WAKE DEMOCRATS ALL THE WAY UP. The bad guys have focused on the Supreme Court for years by now. The deplorables got it, early, and even the most dim-bulb types were VERY aware of the Supreme Court issue. Perhaps our Dems will FINALLY WAKE THE FUCK UP! Meanwhile, if the bad guys get their way, maybe THEY’RE the ones who’ll kick back and relax and decide they’ve won, and the struggle is over and their job is done. Kinda like we did in the 1970s, after we got rid of Nixon and civil rights and women’s rights became a priority, the Vietnam War was ended, and we all assumed the fight was over and we’d moved the country dramatically forward. And then most of us grew complacent, assumed we could relax and let our guard down, and rolled over and went back to sleep. The bad guys DID NOT.

We Dems CANNOT afford to do what we did back then, and let the the other side of the aisle run amok while we think everything is settled and we got this and no need to worry anymore. It’s a shitty habit. It’s fucking LAZY. And NAIVE as all hell. We’re better than that, aren’t we?

Or are we?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

3. The constitution doesn't address impeachment rules for a SC judge, does it?

I read that they serve as long as the have "good behavior". But, didn't see precise voting quotas. Is it 2/3 of senate?

[john657]

6. Yes,

2/3 or 67 votes needed in the Senate to convict and remove.

[greymattermom]

4. Just watch his drinking while the court is in session.

The court could schedule some late night meetings. Then, impeach him for being drunk on the job. He won't be able to control the hours like I'm guessing he can as a federal judge. Roberts had better like him, or there is an easy way out that doesn't involved politics.

[getagrip_already]

27. won't happen.......

first, only the house could impach him and only the senate can remove him (with 67 votes).

Second, lots of the justices are very old and can't put in grueling hours. That's what their clerks do.

Lastly, if a justice is incapable of working, they will merely call a recess. The scotus will take no disciplinary action against a sitting justice. They never have.

[uponit7771]

8. Rubin is right, KavaCrookeds big mouth should mean a crap ton of recusing of him from cases

[DeminPennswoods]

11. I've gained a ton of respect for Jennifer Rubin

Yes, she's a neverTrumper, but she also has had no qualms about calling out Rs in print or directly to their face.

[jalan48]

14. We'd never do it because of fear of what Republican's would do once they were back in power.

[delisen]

23. We can't let them return to power.

[Grasswire2]

24. then this "we" you speak of must be shown the door, pronto.

Now. Make it a campaign issue for the mid terms.

[bucolic_frolic]

15. Totally agree, that's where this is headed

has been evident for a couple of weeks

Of course if impeached, does Kavanaugh vote on his own impeachment?

[getagrip_already]

29. no, only the senate does.....

And it would take 67 of them to remove him. We only have 49. We won't even be able to stop his confirmation.

Even if he were convicted in a court of law, he would still be a sitting justice unless he resigned or was removed through impeachment in the house and conviction in the senate.

He could tie up his seat just by sitting in prison.

Only way past this horror (temporarily) is to expand the court. The problem with that is that everytime they get all three houses they will just expand it as well.

[vlyons]

16. Yes exactly

That's what I have been saying for a week. If we take the House, then next Jan Dems will chair all the committees, and there will shit load of investigations.

[FiveGoodMen]

35. "there will shit load of investigations"

Of another promise to take them off the table.

[Perseus]

18. So much damage will be done in one year

They could even try to eliminate the rule that allows for impeachment of judges in the supreme court.

I have seen it happen in other places, they take hold of the supreme court and law/rules that one never thought could be implemented are suddenly the rule of the land, and the fact that Kavanaugh is just there to make the man-child immune of any investigation/impeachment/indictment for wrong-doing is enough to scare the hell out of the world.

This is not good...not at all if kavanaugh gets confirmed, he may be up for impeachment in less than a year, but destroying is an easier job than building, it takes more effort to create than to destroy.

They know what they are doing, they know how much time they have in their agenda, and the bullet points are all laid out. They may be cruel, evil, and seem incompetent, but don't bank on that, evil moves very fast, and they do understand their agenda very well, when you least expect it you will have "doctors, scientist, etc." coming from Russia in an "exchange" plan.

[delisen]

25. True. that is why we are now engaged in a Civil War.

and citizens are about to become a force. This is not a war of Republicans vs Democrats. It is a war of citizens vs forces of tyranny.

[Grasswire2]

26. Elie Wiesel said it.

"It happened so fast."

[grantcart]

31. Yes it does

[Freethinker65]

28. Kavanaugh effectively vowed under oath to the Senate to be a partisan hack

He will never be seen as impartial. The hatred he spewed under oath against anything Clinton related or his idea of the "left" will taint all of his rulings and the Supreme Court.

[cilla4progress]

30. "The institutions are holding."

Still?

[watoos]

32. So what if the traitorous Senate refuses to convict?

Bring on the hearings, shine the light on all of the cockroaches, get the information out to the American people. Let the Senate vote no after all of the damning evidence has been shown. The reich wing base will shrink even more. There will come a point when minority rule will be too small. Damnit we are in the majority, we should act like it, bring on the hearings Jerry, impeach the monster, it's the right thing to do.

[Scurrilous]

36. K&R

[dalton99a]

37. Kick