Wow - IF anyone was ever more between a rock and a hard place - we are.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

If BK wins, it probably will help us in Nov - our side will be so outraged. BUT
we are stuck with BK for life unless we someday get 2/3 of senate to impeach. Or, what would it take to impeach him? Constitution says term ends with "bad behavior"

If BK loses, we won't have to live with him on the court - but it would surely energize their side to get out and vote their Senate lead up. Then, they can push
through someone else. That someone may have lead a cleaner life, but has the same sick beliefs.

[scheming daemons]

1. Fight to stop him... and then fight the next one too.

There are more of us than them, especially if we vote.

[bdamomma]

3. exactly there are more of us than them

nt

[Hermit-The-Prog]

4. and educate the electorate

The Cult of Disinformation must be addressed.

Vote and help someone else to vote.

[DownriverDem]

17. Fight yes

but understand that the current number of Dems can't do it. They have no power. I wish folks understood how it all works. I see comments that show that folks think that the Dems didn't fight enough. Not true. They did what they could, but the repubs run it all. Get the Dems electoral wins and then you'll see a big difference.

[SergeStorms]

19. Trump has a list....

of 25 people, all approved by the Federalist Society, all willing to overturn Roe v. Wade, at his disposal. I'm sure there's at least one who's squeaky clean. Kavanaugh is the judge who'll protect Trump the most, but that doesn't mean none of the others will. Unless two Republicans have the guts to refuse Bratt his "destiny", there's no hope to keep one of those CONservative judges off the Supreme Court. The Republicans are going to push one through by any means necessary.

[john657]

2. It's easy to impeach him,

it's just a simple majority in the House, the Senate is where the trouble is, it will take 2/3, or 67 votes to convict and remove him, and unless my math sucks, which it usually does, even if we win all the pub seats up for reelection this year, we'd only have 58 seats in the Senate, far fewer than needed to remove Kavanaugh.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. If any republicans vote no - we could probably count on them voting no again.

[PubliusEnigma]

5. Keep him off the court. Let them pick someone else.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. Yes, like if you knew you were gonna have a heart attack - would you rather have

it this week or in 3 months.

[Chiquitita]

6. Their backs are up against a wall

We have everything to gain by fighting as hard as we can right now.

[Ohioboy]

7. Keep him out and then fight to win this November too

[FreepFryer]

8. Americans throughout history who have faced adversity are rolling their eyes at this one.

We've faced far worse - and we may well face far worse still - on the path towards restoring American democracy for Americans.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. My mind immediately goes to keeping -45 out of the WH in 2020. Like that's the dam.

[Blue_true]

12. Well, we can short circuit that by voting.

I really have issues with "woe is me" post when we have the tool called voting. They try suppression, we use our heads and overcome that.

[Nitram]

13. I'm not sure I buy the idea that Kavanaugh's loss would energize Republicans.

I think it might discourage them even more. A majority of women believe Ford's testimony.

[IMPEACH_45DJT]

14. It really is just a terrible situation all around.

In any case, SCOTUS is probably lost for an entire generation, unless we decide to pack it. But that would be a huge undertaking.

[ginnyinWI]

15. Unless there is a Dem in the White House,

Every nominee for the SC will be right wing. So it's six of one, half dozen of the other as far as judicial judgements. Yes it would be nicer to have said justice be a decent human being, but better to have the court be more balanced.

2018--so that Congress can reign in Trump. The hidden danger is that if he is opposed by the Congress, he will immediately blame everything that goes wrong on them! It would help his chances for 2020, but we still want to prevent more damage.

2020--elect a Democrat to the White House. And improve or maintain Dems in Congress. Nominate justices that reflect the values of the majority of Americans!

[Nitram]

16. No, we are not between a rock and a hard place. If Kavanaugh is not confirmed, we will have won.

If he is confirmed, even if we gain a couple of seats more, we will have to live with the consequences for a generation. This whole fight probably did energize some hard core supporters off Trump -but they were going to vote Republican anyway.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

18. Impeaching Kavanaugh is way harder a task than most anyone thinks.

It wouldn't really be for any of the allegations raised against him now--If the Senate votes to confirm, they've essentially ratified his conduct and say those claims don't matter.

It would have to be for something that arises beyond that point. And given the overall failure rate of impeachment attempts against federal judges, and the one and only impeachment of a Supreme Court justice (Samuel Chase in 1805, which resulted in an acquittal), it's a rather tall task to think he'll just be impeached and removed willy-nilly.

The way I see it, we are screwed either way. Unless there is some way that we can stave off a Republican president from filling the seat through January 2021--which is rather unlikely--that seat will get filled by a conservative, Kavanaugh or someone else.

And Kavanaugh's vote won't come with any asterisk if he is confirmed. His vote will carry as much weight as the other eight judges.

The way I see it, because we are in a no-win position, we might as well hope that Kavanaugh gets voted down, even if that means another less-blemished conservative judge takes his place.

At least Kavanaugh being voted down constitutes some sort of karma or repudiation of his past conduct. And if there's anything good at all that can come out of this situation, that will be it.

[dalton99a]

23. +1.

[EleanorR]

20. I don't believe that it will energize them to vote

Kavanaugh did their side no favors.

[Honeycombe8]

21. Their side is energized, anyway. But doesn't matter. He will be confirmed.

Nothing short of a video showing him raping a baby would stop the confirmation. I don't say that as a joke. I'm serious. Even then, I KNOW there would be some Senators who would claim the video is a fake, it's not BK, or some other reason the video shouldn't stop a vote for confirmation.

[LibDemAlways]

24. You are correct. Kavanaugh's whiny, accusatory,

partisan, rude behavior in front of the committee should have cinched it. He obviously lacks judicial temperament. But I firmly believe that even if he had turned to the Dems on the committee and yelled "Fuck you all and your families, too" and then followed up his question to Senator Klopuchar with "How about we go for drinks after and then back to my place. You can play Christine," the Repukes would not have batted an eyelash. They'd only love him more.

[Honeycombe8]

25. That accusatory, improper temperament at the hearing cinched it...for the Republicans.

I read a few posts afterwards in a "mixed" forum....Repubs were PROUD of Kavanaugh and Graham.

[Trueblue Texan]

22. Fight for Democracy by fighting Kavanaugh appointment...

I don't like to think of the Kavanaugh scandal in terms of politics. I know, I know...it's a reality. But Democracy comes before the politics of it. I don't care if their base is more motivated because Kavanaugh is defeated. Kavanaugh needs to be defeated because he will help the president destroy this nation. Period.

[KCDebbie]

26. As Dem and Progressive supporters we are running out of LEGAL options...