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JudyM

(29,250 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:04 AM Oct 2018

Where are our veterans as it appears our democracy is being destroyed in plain sight?

I read something poetic last night about the flag being blown not by the wind but by the breath of all the veterans who lost their lives protecting it.

Searched online for news of veterans opposing Kavanaugh, because I hadn’t seen anything. Still didn’t find anything. Haven’t seen anything about involvement in election rigging, either. Has anyone else?

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Where are our veterans as it appears our democracy is being destroyed in plain sight? (Original Post) JudyM Oct 2018 OP
I'm a veteran and I oppose Kavanaugh. MineralMan Oct 2018 #1
I meant groups of veterans... like those who stood up together against the Pipeline. JudyM Oct 2018 #2
Most of the veterans organizations are very conservative politically. MineralMan Oct 2018 #3
I too don't belong to any veteran groups, john657 Oct 2018 #4
Yes. I experienced that, too. MineralMan Oct 2018 #6
most have never heard of the creep pretzel4gore Oct 2018 #5
After stepping up submarine patrols from the Submariner Oct 2018 #7
Exactly, haven't seen organized vocal opposition to McConnell et al taking over with Putin's help JudyM Oct 2018 #10
We're Here The River Oct 2018 #8
Half of them have their tongues up Trump's ass. Aristus Oct 2018 #9

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
1. I'm a veteran and I oppose Kavanaugh.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:06 AM
Oct 2018

I'm also a man, a Minnesotan, 73 years old, and have many other attributes. The fact that I'm a veteran has little to do with my opinions about political issues. So, I oppose him, based on who I am in toto.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
3. Most of the veterans organizations are very conservative politically.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:17 AM
Oct 2018

I have nothing to do with any of them. As for the pipeline protesters who were veterans, that was a rather small group with a very specific thing to oppose.

Most progressive veterans work in conjunction with other progressives, irregardless of their service history. We're more than just veterans. That is just one of the things we have in common.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
4. I too don't belong to any veteran groups,
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:23 AM
Oct 2018

but for different reasons.

Back in the 70's, I went to our local VFW to see what it was all about, the reception I received from the WWII vets when they found out I was a Vietnam vet convinced me that I wanted nothing to do with them.

Their contention was that we weren't welcome because we "lost the war".

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
6. Yes. I experienced that, too.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:27 AM
Oct 2018

Those old vets were also conservatives, politically. I walked away from that immediately. Oddly enough, now, it's the old Vietnam Vets who are discouraging younger veterans from joining those same organizations. It's an old story that keeps being rewritten.

 

pretzel4gore

(8,146 posts)
5. most have never heard of the creep
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:26 AM
Oct 2018

back in the day there was an organization called the Grand Army of the republic (GAR) and it was made up of Union army vets, and the last effective Civil War veterans faded away about 1920...when the KaKaKa grew into the big deal it became. Much of the 'confederate' activism began when the GAR left the scene. they WOULD NOT put up with Honest Abe being dishonored, or with traitors like R e lee being given statues etc. Yet few, if any, have heard of the GAR. In the same way most citizens pay no attention to the news bs, which everybody knows is dope pushing for dummies...it's almost impossible to believe decent sensible people would put up with regan, geebush, much less trumpotus. The fact most do is a direct result of the perpetual nazipooh scheming (read 'up from conservativism' for an insider's take on the remarkable takeover of USA etc)

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
7. After stepping up submarine patrols from the
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:38 AM
Oct 2018

October 1962 Cuban/USSR missile crisis that put many of us to sea on 90 day patrols that destroyed/sacrificed hundreds if not thousands of marriages.

I’m more angry about that racist hillbilly cracker Mitch McConnell accepting $2.5 million of Russian money for his PAC, and that a few months back a sizeable contingent of republicans visited with Putin to conspire to, I believe, eventually drop the sanctions President Obama imposed for annexing Ukraine/Crimea.

I consider those republicans treasonous and I regret that there little, if anything beyond voting I can do about it. As old as I am I would relish the opportunity to smack some of them in the mouth and tell them off. I hate the republicans.

Kavanaugh is just an off shoot of this treasonous corruption.

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
10. Exactly, haven't seen organized vocal opposition to McConnell et al taking over with Putin's help
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:00 PM
Oct 2018

to ruin the infrastructure of our government/elections. Feels like there ought to be a rising up to do battle with them.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
9. Half of them have their tongues up Trump's ass.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:56 AM
Oct 2018

I belong to the other half: the veterans who love this country, and can't stand to see it humiliated in the eyes of the world by the Orange Shitgibbon.

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