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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:26 AM Oct 2018

The more I read and learn about the Trump family financial

shenanigans, I believe the entire nation owes Hillary a huge apology. She put out over thirty years of financial information and it still wasn't enough. Today I heard that some people in various offices are wondering if they should push to get Trump's tax return. Well, hell yeah! While you're at it, get Sanders' and Stein's. For our elections to work, we need fair standards to judge by. No candidate should be given the passes that were meted out in 2016 by any party. We are fools if we let this happen again.

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The more I read and learn about the Trump family financial (Original Post) Skidmore Oct 2018 OP
I agree Andy823 Oct 2018 #1
I agree Nasruddin Oct 2018 #4
Look at what is happening Scarsdale Oct 2018 #2
Yes we need to stop them Andy823 Oct 2018 #7
No SCROTUS appointments without financial disclosure. lagomorph777 Oct 2018 #16
The Double Standard Hasn't Changed dlk Oct 2018 #3
+100. And on double standards, ONE standard Hortensis Oct 2018 #5
If the Founders were writing Constitution today, they would ensure financial transparency. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2018 #6
Actually it's Vladimir Putin who OWES HER the apology FakeNoose Oct 2018 #8
K&R. ICAM with everything you said lunamagica Oct 2018 #9
All elections are local ... aggiesal Oct 2018 #10
only one state needs to tequire it and we all can see it rampartc Oct 2018 #14
Trump is a con man and everyone knew it Gothmog Oct 2018 #11
Absolutley, Skidmore! No more skating by Cha Oct 2018 #12
This. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #13
+++ brer cat Oct 2018 #15
Amen! NurseJackie Oct 2018 #17
+1000 sheshe2 Oct 2018 #18
K&R betsuni Oct 2018 #19

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
1. I agree
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:11 PM
Oct 2018

If a candidate doesn't show their tax returns they should not be on the ballot! Those who have something to hide are the only ones who don't want to show their returns. Seeing the problems with trump should prove things need to change.

Nasruddin

(754 posts)
4. I agree
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:36 PM
Oct 2018

I think all candidates for elected federal office, all cabinet secs, and federal court justices (incl supreme court) must have complete
public disclosure of financials
complete medical exam including a complete cognitive assessment
(disclosure is a problem)
A very thorough SSBI
(Lifetime appointments require periodic refresh of all of these or appointment is terminated automatically)

Ideally, you couldn't get on the ballot or be eligible for Senate approval unless all are completed, and no disqualifying items found.

This is very difficult, because there are privacy, constitutional, social, and qualitative/subjective issues involved. System is subject to gaming. However, I think we have to move in this direction.
The financials & ssbi will eliminate a lot of psychopaths. That might hurt the country a little.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
2. Look at what is happening
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 12:28 PM
Oct 2018

with the SC, then tell us HOW anything is going to change? Kavenaugh will be seated on the SC, forbid any investigations into tRump or his family, and the grand old pricks will continue on their path of destruction. We need to STOP McConnell in his power grab over the court. The entire fiasco is a farce. Lindsey Graham is obviously privy to the information, since he is forging ahead backing sex perverts Kavenaugh and tRump. We may never know what the HELL is going on behind closed doors, until the country is on its' last legs.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
7. Yes we need to stop them
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:03 PM
Oct 2018

The only way to do that is get out and vote. If all those who sat out the 2016 election had actually voted, we wouldn't be where we are today. Let's make sure that doesn't happen again.

FakeNoose

(32,641 posts)
8. Actually it's Vladimir Putin who OWES HER the apology
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:13 PM
Oct 2018

He also owes our entire country an apology, but I know we'll never see it.



aggiesal

(8,916 posts)
10. All elections are local ...
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:52 PM
Oct 2018

No election is a national election.
The federal government does not make election rules or counts ballots.

In California, we passed a law that says, you can not be on the Presidential ballot
unless you disclose your tax returns.

I'm sure the r's are going to file a lawsuit to keep from disclosing IQ45's tax returns,
or they risk losing all CA's electoral college votes in the process.

The rest of the states should do the same, if they haven't already.

R's always say it's about STATES RIGHTS, now is their chance to prove it.

rampartc

(5,408 posts)
14. only one state needs to tequire it and we all can see it
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 03:35 PM
Oct 2018

afterthought. if that state is california with many electoral votes, anyway.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
12. Absolutley, Skidmore! No more skating by
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 03:29 PM
Oct 2018

without showing ALL their Tax Returns.. that means NO EXCEPTIONS!

Thank You for your thread.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
17. Amen!
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 04:57 PM
Oct 2018
No candidate should be given the passes that were meted out in 2016 by any party. We are fools if we let this happen again.
Amen. That's the honest truth. There are no two ways about it.
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