This is why all the jobs are going away (Dominoes Self Delivery Car):

[joshcryer]

All delivery jobs. Most service jobs. Warehouse jobs. Cashiers. It's all going away. All of it.

For good or for bad? Obviously good. Who wants to drive around doing pizza delivery all day? But we need a basic income to make up for this massive vacuum in jobs. It's absolutely necessary. And it's happening way faster than anyone could've predicted. Very, fast.

[shanti]

1. Sounds like Dominoes is all the way

into automation. Have you seen their latest teevee ad? There's no one manning a register now, no hooman in sight. You call your order in, pay in advance, and go to the "store" for pickup. Then you punch your number into this locked warming unit, and up pops your pizza, ready to go.

[Liberal In Texas]

3. Always thought their pizza looked like it was untouched by human hands.

[joshcryer]

5. The McDonalds around here already have an automated kiosk.

You walk in and walk up to the counter and one of the workers will direct you to ordering on a tablet thing, I was confused at first because I thought that's where people with credit cards would order, but nope, it prints out a receipt of your order and then you take it to the cashier. Once they get a machine that takes your money and makes change, it'll be over. The Smiths already have self-checkout machines that will take a handful of change as cash (no need to put change in a coin slot one coin at a time) and takes money even really messed up bills without a problem.

Next step for mainline cashiers is an autobagger, that will bag your stuff for you. Whoever makes that will become very rich.

[xor]

15. I went into a McDonald's that had one of those.

I played around with it for a minute and then decided not to order anything. Not sure exactly why I decided not order. I am willing to bet if I was standing in front of a person trying to decide what I wanted, then I would have been less likely to change my mind. Something about not wanting to disappoint a human by abandoning my order midway through. Maybe if the machine said "come back, I need you." then I would have completed it.

[joshcryer]

18. I only buy from the dollar menu for a quick bite.

But I could tell that the design on the menu was designed to divert your eyes to certain options, most likely copy-tested and decided in a group effort to manipulate the consumer.

Just wait though, one day once all your data is sold, all these automated machines will be giving you options that you will want, because they will know how you think, and if you're on, say, a chicken nugget craving spree, they'll know and they'll be able to suggest it to you from data that they brought from your social media sites, emails, texts, places you've been, etc.

But you make an interesting point and I bet they've considered things like that before going full kiosk. They need people to be used to them before they become a thing, which is why I do think that they have cashiers. In my case it was a rush so the person at the counter was being nice, but I bet if I wanted to they could take my order (because they just looked at the receipt and punched in my order number).

[xor]

20. Is it wrong that's I'm both looking forward to and dreading the day

when I don't have to consciously think what I want, because something else already did it for me and had it delivered before I even knew I wanted it?

[joshcryer]

21. Yeah... it's weird. I posted about this before.

But basically I shop at Smiths and started getting coupons in the mail about things I like (expensive things), shrimp coupons for the brand I liked, salad, etc. I knew then that they were sending them because they knew what I was buying every now and again.

Longer post here: https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210226905#post68

[OnDoutside]

23. What I love about the touch screen ordering is the reduction of screwups in my order to nil

(I'm probably tempting fate there !). My son and myself are picky eaters so usually order "without stuff". Ordering at the counter was regularly a disaster, as they cashier would forget to input the withouts, and we'd have to bring it back and wait all over again.

[Renew Deal]

2. Do you tip the "driver"?

[xor]

16. only during riots...

get it? Bad attempt at a joke.

[Renew Deal]

19. lol

Got it. Took a second.

[brush]

4. How does it get into gated communities? Plenty in Vegas.

[joshcryer]

6. I'm sure there's a human in the driver seat.

Since it's still experimental.

So however the human gets in. I guess they call up the person ordering and ask for the code? Or there's a guest code? I'm sure they're thinking about how to get the code or to work with the people in those communities to have a remote solution.

[brush]

7. HOAs don't want homeowners just giving out the code to pizza order people over the phone...

and the human in the car has to go away after the experimental period or there's no point to the driver-less delivery car.

[joshcryer]

8. How do they get in now then?

Do they give delivery places a guest code or do the people in the communities go down to the gate or what? I know UPS or Fedex has their own code for example.

I'm sure that once this takes off the HOA would give out codes to delivery places because the people in them won't want to give up the convenience of deliveries to them. But the machine would have to be able to communicate with the keypad remotely. Pressing a button is silly.

[brush]

9. UPS and FEDEX, police and fire have codes but who wants to give codes to...

pizza order people who may not even be working there the next month?

And many in gated communities have courtyards with gates. There still seems to be a lot to work out as you order a pizza to be delivered to your door. You don't want to have to get up, go outside and punch in some code to get the pizza out of the robot car.

[joshcryer]

10. I am pretty sure you can get pizza deliveries in a gated community.

Since I've never been wealthy enough to live in one I wouldn't know how it works.

And people would opt to walk to the street to get their food if they didn't have feel obligated to tip. Or deal with overworked delivery people.

[brush]

22. The driver just looks up your name on the call box and u buzz them in...

you don't have to be wealthy to live in a call box community.

Now if you live in a manned gated community, then you're talking some bucks.

[USALiberal]

11. Jobs have ALWAYS went away!!! Normal progress! Nt

[MyNameGoesHere]

12. Now we know how horses felt when cars and trucks took their jobs

Relieved I would guess.

[lame54]

13. You know what this is going to do to the porn industry?

[xor]

17. Took me a minute.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

24. Orgasmatron?

[Oneironaut]

14. If technology is increasing wealth, we can afford a UBI.

Most of the problem is the perception that a UBI is “free money.” No - it makes it back into the economy. The people that are currently both getting free money and hoarding it are the 1%.

Poor people usually spend their money. They create jobs by giving others business.

However, Americans would rather funnel their money to the top, because how dare poor people get free things. It’s such a stupid mentality.