Kavanaugh will be approved 52-47

[brooklynite]

Manchin and Heitkamp will vote in favor.

[FBaggins]

1. Then it's 53

[BlueJac]

2. Looks that way.

Sorry to say

[scheming daemons]

3. Um... there's 100 senators, not 99.

[themaguffin]

13. One of them passed away recently

[scheming daemons]

16. He's already been replaced. By John Kyl.

[themaguffin]

19. I'm just explaining why one would use a total of 99, right or not.

[Sedona]

33. I heard Kyl is refusing himself.

Cant find a link

[Baitball Blogger]

4. Link?

[irresistable]

5. Brooklynite doesn't need links....he IS linked.

[Baitball Blogger]

7. LOL!

[Baitball Blogger]

9. Heitkamp doesn't have a chance.

based on polls. She has a chance to finish strong in principle if she votes no.

[BeyondGeography]

12. Yup; might as well go out on principle at this point

But misplaced hope springs eternal, so I would be surprised if she didn’t cave.

[MichMary]

26. Except--

if she has aspirations for any other elective office in North Dakota, she will probably vote yes. Don't know. Think she'll ever want to be governor?

[kennetha]

8. How will voting for a serial assaulter

help either Manchin or Heitkamp?

I don't get it. Democrats will be furious. Republicans who want a Trump Republican will prefer the real thing over the fake thing.

There is no upside for either of them, it seems to me, in alienating Democrats in order to gain nothing from Republicans or Independents who support Trump.

Are there really voters out there, otherwise inclined to support and the Republicans, who would vote for either of them if they just backed Kav?

[leftstreet]

21. +1

nicely stated, and a very good question

[Cosmocat]

22. Right?

The number of people who otherwise would not vote for them who vote for them because they are vote for this psychopath is INFINITELY < than the number of people who would otherwise vote for them who will be revolted by them voting for the psychopath ....

[MichMary]

28. Manchin is personally popular in W. Virginia

but Trump is also very popular, and the voters want Kav. The question is, do we want to lose a Senate seat over something that is probably a moot point?

[at140]

30. Who knows what thought process flows through

the gray matter of some voters! I have reached a conclusion that all voters don't think rationally or alike.

[SharonAnn]

36. More people vote Republican in those states. Sometimes a D can get some R votes.

In ND and SD, the anti-choice voters are a strong majority. Heitkamp has a tough time as a D because of that.

[eleny]

11. Heitkamp's hail mary play that will may very well fail anyway, imo

[Wellstone ruled]

15. As of four o'clock yesterday,

Heitkamp's reelection ain't going to happen. Talked to people on the ground,it is ugly for our Dem Friends in North Dakota. She was down by 10 points as of that time yesterday.

[treestar]

17. Then why not vote NO?

She could at least do that.

[LandOfHopeAndDreams]

25. Politician

Many of them say they're looking out for us, but the truth is obvious sometimes who they're really concerned about.

[eleny]

18. I heard she was down but didn't hear the number of points

No way can she turn that around with a Yes vote. If she votes to seat Kav I have to wonder how the heck she lives with herself. A No vote would at least show dignity and spine.

[book_worm]

20. She was down by 10 in this same poll in 2012, too--two weeks before the election.

[Wellstone ruled]

23. Am aware of that,

yesterday did not sound good at all,do remember 2012,worked a Campaign in Utah and the Party moved people from us to North Dakota in the last two weeks.

Something else is going on and it is Gender Related by the smell.

[davsand]

35. Hate the loss of a "Dem" seat, but...

Last edited Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:40 PM - Edit history (1)

She's kinda like Manchin. Can't count on either one of them for a Dem vote when they are really needed.


Let's concentrate on all the other seats we can pick up and maybe count on.

JMO.

_________

ADDED ON EDIT!!

I just saw a thread saying that Heidkamp is planning a no vote. GOOD for her. I retract my nasty statement about her earlier.


Laura

[eleny]

38. RE: Your edit - I'll be darned!

So it sounds like she may go down swinging. The way I figure it, voters like to see a pol stand their ground, stand for something. I'm not in her shoes but stand to be affected by Court decisions, as we all are.

[Wellstone ruled]

42. Just caught a interview with her Brother.

He claims his internal polling shows Heidi down by a few points .

Knowing a bit about the Fundie World of NoDak,they are pissed she is not voting for Kavanah. At least she keeps her Reputation as a honest broker when dealing with the Laws of our Nation.

[eleny]

43. And when the poop hits the fan her fellow NoDaks will be running to her with their troubles

But it will be too late.

[Wellstone ruled]

44. Hope she pulls this off,known of her for a couple decades.

Had her Fargo Office as a business Client back in the Nineties.

[Turin_C3PO]

14. I hope you're wrong.

But I fear you are right.

[bluestarone]

27. I'm from ND and

So fucking pissed at the idiots in this state!! Of course they got their checks in their mail from RUMP so THEIR VOTES HAVE BEEN PURCHASED!!! Heidi"s in a tough spot for sure,but needs to vote NO!!!

[Qanisqineq]

32. Me too

I left ND for almost 20 years. It was always conservative but not this bad. I came back almost three years ago and this place is nuts.

The fundraiser held for Cramer in TEXAS makes me sick. I can't stand him.

[bluestarone]

45. TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEVER been this bad! RUMP has has Turned ND into a fucking CULT!!!!!!!!!!

[Freethinker65]

31. If approved, I hope Kavanaugh goes all out.

I want him tweeting about how horrible female Democrats are and using derogatory adjectives to describe minorities like Trump does. I want him calling into Fox and Friends and being a special guest on Hannity. I want him to Instagram himself at pool parties drinking beer with teenage females around at Mar a Lago. I want him to bask in the glory of being a privileged entitled asshole given his position by people like Trump, Pence, McConnell, and Graham. And when he sides for any and all abortion restrictions I want to see Collins' grin as she runs to the elevator to avoid answering questions.

Yes. I am very angry.

[pnwmom]

34. If he can be approved solely on R votes, then nothing changes with the D's vote

except they aren't as much at risk for being punished in their own states, which went heavily for Trump.

[JHan]

37. Heitkamp is a no.

[LAS14]

39. When I saw this this morning, I was going to reply asking....

... for a link or something. Then I saw a bunch of posts on DU that assumed it was all over. Then I started looking at MSM (gasp!) and it didn't look "over." Well, here's a stunner. MSM has been more accurate than DU!

[onenote]

40. You might want to rethink that prediction

Heidi is a no

[book_worm]

41. It might very well be 50-50 with the VP putting him on the Court.