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libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:14 PM Oct 2018

How many more gut punches are we supposed to take?

I ran out of tears months ago and now just numb.
It looks like a rapist is going to be put on the supreme court.
We are going back to back ally abortions and men preying on women without fear.
Minorities being abused.

2018 just became 1840.

I dont know what to do anymore
This country was founded on hatred by white men towards all and we will never change.

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How many more gut punches are we supposed to take? (Original Post) libtodeath Oct 2018 OP
He'll be impeached, we already have enough evidence to do it FakeNoose Oct 2018 #1
That still takes 67 votes which will never happen. libtodeath Oct 2018 #7
Exactly. We can't even get 1 Republican to cross the aisle on confirmation. bearsfootball516 Oct 2018 #28
I think the ultimate horror is coming and that's trump using Nuclear Weapons nt maryellen99 Oct 2018 #2
With a quarter of our population happy for the slaughter libtodeath Oct 2018 #9
Yep and I'm resigned to it :( maryellen99 Oct 2018 #14
This has been my biggest fear since he took office... Moostache Oct 2018 #18
What does the Mueller probe have to do with him launching nuclear missiles? bearsfootball516 Oct 2018 #29
EVERYTHING this maniac does is to drown out the Meuller Investigation/Russia. No doubt that he kerry-is-my-prez Oct 2018 #33
That's why I was confused by Moostache's post. bearsfootball516 Oct 2018 #36
That's because Mattis is still Sec of Defense maryellen99 Oct 2018 #39
He would do it as a distraction nt maryellen99 Oct 2018 #34
They will keep punching us until we make them stop! Vote, vote, vote! Meadowoak Oct 2018 #3
I feel it too. But I just saw badhair77 Oct 2018 #4
Did you see the DC event on social media or TV? Thanx. appalachiablue Oct 2018 #35
Sorry, I'm only seeing this now. Yes, MSNBC and CNN were covering it. badhair77 Oct 2018 #38
we are locking up children is concentration camps. lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #5
I think they have already rigged enough voting machines to prevent a massive blue wave and after libtodeath Oct 2018 #12
Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2018 #31
One thing we'll need is to be brave eleny Oct 2018 #6
I know and it just seems to get worse each time. libtodeath Oct 2018 #11
Yes it does eleny Oct 2018 #13
not only those brave women suffragettes bdamomma Oct 2018 #23
. eleny Oct 2018 #37
Too many Dems did not show up in 2014 which allowed several Repub senators to be elected. LonePirate Oct 2018 #8
and McConell would have been defeated msdogi Oct 2018 #15
Not many more... the GOP is dead November 6th budkin Oct 2018 #10
Yes, but their "final act" screws us for generations! tableturner Oct 2018 #17
If I had a nickle for every time I've heard the GOP is dead, I'd be pretty well off. Autumn Oct 2018 #24
This feels WAY different to me budkin Oct 2018 #32
The gut punches will continue without . . . peggysue2 Oct 2018 #16
The thing that makes me sickest is they dont seem worried about midterms libtodeath Oct 2018 #26
You can get depressed or you can get motivated mythology Oct 2018 #19
don't despair bdamomma Oct 2018 #20
nov election.. we have to begin to fight back. lay the foundations. Demovictory9 Oct 2018 #21
You are part of a big movement. Gather together delisen Oct 2018 #22
all of them 0rganism Oct 2018 #25
It takes character to stand up to adversity. Each of us is being tested. How many you can take... FreepFryer Oct 2018 #27
They will keep punching until we're dead maxrandb Oct 2018 #30
so we need to punch back bdamomma Oct 2018 #40

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
1. He'll be impeached, we already have enough evidence to do it
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:16 PM
Oct 2018

First thing after we win the house and the Senate.



bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
28. Exactly. We can't even get 1 Republican to cross the aisle on confirmation.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:11 PM
Oct 2018

There's zero chance that 15+ cross the aisle to kick him out of the Senate. That's not being pessimistic, it's realism.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
18. This has been my biggest fear since he took office...
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:53 PM
Oct 2018

He can't wait to do it either...once the Mueller probe gets shut down and he needs to distract everyone (again) the missiles will fly and millions will die...I have never in my life hated another human being to the extent I hate Trump. Please just fucking die Trump, collapse in a heap and draw no more breath you waste of fucking oxygen pig.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
29. What does the Mueller probe have to do with him launching nuclear missiles?
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:12 PM
Oct 2018

I don't agree that he's going to do it, but if he was going it, it's not like Mueller is stopping him.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
33. EVERYTHING this maniac does is to drown out the Meuller Investigation/Russia. No doubt that he
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:23 PM
Oct 2018

would threaten or start a nuclear war. He thinks that talk about it will scare people into submission, anger, violence, etc., etc. He probably thinks his boyfriends from North Korea & Russia wouldn't really hurt "his country" or worse, just doesn't give a crap if they do as long as he and his family are safe in a below ground bunker.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
36. That's why I was confused by Moostache's post.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:30 PM
Oct 2018

Which said that he would wait until the Mueller probe is over to start launching nuclear missiles. If he wanted to threaten or start nuclear war, I don't see why he would wait until the Mueller probe is over, it's not like Mueller is stopping him.

At the same time, people have been saying this since Trump was elected. We're almost halfway through his term, and nothing of the sort has happened.

badhair77

(4,218 posts)
4. I feel it too. But I just saw
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:18 PM
Oct 2018

the protesters gathering in DC and marching toward the Supreme Court. Small bit of hope there. We’re not totally lying down yet. Just think what they’d do to us if we did that. We need to rely on each other.

badhair77

(4,218 posts)
38. Sorry, I'm only seeing this now. Yes, MSNBC and CNN were covering it.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:01 PM
Oct 2018

It’s been on our local 5:00 news so it will be mentioned all evening. You probably saw it by now.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
5. we are locking up children is concentration camps.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:19 PM
Oct 2018

we are rapidly approaching becoming the modern equivalent of Nazi Germany or fascist Italy or Spain.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
12. I think they have already rigged enough voting machines to prevent a massive blue wave and after
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:39 PM
Oct 2018

that they will unleash their own final solution on America.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
6. One thing we'll need is to be brave
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:25 PM
Oct 2018

Today I keep remembering the struggles of the suffragettes. I'm finding strength from them. It doesn't mean that my stomach isn't churning because it is today.

I can't give in to the despair that this dog and pony show of the past days was engineered to cause. This setback is something to be endured and then gotten through to the other side.

They'll crow and think they've beaten us but we'll prevail because dictators rarely survive.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
13. Yes it does
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:40 PM
Oct 2018

One setback after another. But then there's breakthroughs like the NY Times expose. Steps forward and terrible steps back. Keep your chin up and know that you aren't alone.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
23. not only those brave women suffragettes
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:00 PM
Oct 2018

but also going back to how our country was born, with a lot of blood, and determination we will rise and we will be stronger for it.

You are so right eleny dictators never survive.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
8. Too many Dems did not show up in 2014 which allowed several Repub senators to be elected.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:32 PM
Oct 2018

We would have 3-5 more Dem senators (and the Senate majority) today if Dems had turned out in 2014.

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
16. The gut punches will continue without . . .
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:45 PM
Oct 2018

a massive, undeniable Blue wave on November 6th. As bad as this is be prepared for much worse unless we sweep these GOP pols into the sea.

Our Vote is our Voice. We need to make that Voice deafening.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
26. The thing that makes me sickest is they dont seem worried about midterms
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:05 PM
Oct 2018

Almost like they know the fix is in.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
19. You can get depressed or you can get motivated
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:56 PM
Oct 2018

We didn't get into this position overnight and we won't get out of it overnight. The only way we lose is to give up. No progress is ever linear. It's always a slog and a fight.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
20. don't despair
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:57 PM
Oct 2018

it was mentioned that Senators have security because of the protesters, ha, wait there will be many more protesters. Such disrespect from Repigs they have forgotten we can vote them out. That is if we all get there and vote.

To be silent is letting them think we have rolled over.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
22. You are part of a big movement. Gather together
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 01:58 PM
Oct 2018

where you are with even a very small group, meet together, and take some actions-however small they seem. Tell the rest of us what you are doing.

The internet is perverse, it brings us together but also keeps us apart.

I don't want to minimize the danger we are in but I believe we are going to successfully defend the Constitution, ourselves, our freedoms, liberty, and rights.

I believe it is important to know where we stand and who the enemy is. No Republican senator is going to fight for freedom or democracy or fairness. If they were ever going to do so, they would have left that party by now. Each senator who gave false hope wasted our time and resources. If they wanted to do the right thing, they would have done it. They chose dictatorship and duplicity over the Constitution and the people.

So, as for the senate, we need to focus on getting as many senators as we can elected in November and concentrate on holding them accountable and ensuring their re-election.

We then need to focus on the institutions and people in every part of the country who truly believe in democracy, equality and freedom and liberty for all. These are our allies, our compatriots, and ultimately this is where the power lies in a democracy. If we only think of ourselves as Democrats )important as that is) we lose some power. We are the citizenry (I include aspiring citizens in that) and ultimately that is where the power must lie in a democracy.

Democracy has not failed us; representative democracy has failed. I believe it will take a decade at a minimum for us to prevail but we need to be clear about our destination first.

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
25. all of them
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:03 PM
Oct 2018

pretty much end of the line here
if there's a country you'd rather live in, now is the time to emigrate (probably would have been easier 6 years ago, but there's still a window of opportunity)
if you stay, prepare for plenty more hits, get ready to fight back -- and not with the usual abstracted political strategies either, this is going to get very rude and very personal very quickly.
at least that's what my punched gut is telling me.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
27. It takes character to stand up to adversity. Each of us is being tested. How many you can take...
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 02:11 PM
Oct 2018

...versus how many you can dish out is up to you.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
40. so we need to punch back
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:22 PM
Oct 2018

hard. Caught the news tonite a woman confronted Orin Hatch, and he waved his hand at her, and she came back and said "don't wave your hand at me" with that he walked away.

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