There is nothing we can do, until...

[louis c]

...we start winning elections.

There is definitely more of "us" than there are of "them". But if we squabble among ourselves (I just don't like her, my candidate got screwed in the primaries or they're all the same), or we get complacent or fall for the same bullshit, we will be consigned to be shit on for the rest of our lives.

This is still a Democracy. Don't be discouraged by pessimists (what difference does it make, the elections are all fixed, anyway).

Either fight back or give up. There is no third way. And if you give up, or vote stupid (I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary. I didn't like either of them), please stop whining.

[ck4829]

1. We can do plenty. Vote but do more

Voting can't be seen as a panacea, especially with the electoral clown college subverting the will of the people.

We need to start questioning the legitimacy of the Republican-led government, coming out against the white supremacists, and organizing against the evangelicals who only want women to give birth so they can have future soldiers to die in the "end times" against the Muslims (Role formerly held by the USSR according to the same evangelicals).

https://www.aeinstein.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/FDTD.pdf

[delisen]

2. You are so right!

[customerserviceguy]

3. We've got a tough two years ahead

Right now, I see the Democratic vote being torn a dozen ways. It's my fear that we will go to a convention with five or six candidates all having about 12-20% of the delegates needed for a first ballot victory. And when the superdelegates are able to throw in for the party "favorite", then watch all hell break loose. Bernie vs. Hillary will seem like a sandbox fight in comparison.

There's no super-candidate out there who, simply by announcing a run, will scare off any of the wannabes. If Avenatti goes after the nomination with the same force that we've seen him use on GOP'ers, we will see all kinds of political bloodshed. And all of it while Trump is laughing, and boosting lesser-polling candidates simply by nicknaming them, and getting his insults covered by the media.

If there were a way to get down to maybe five or six serious candidates by the end of 2019, before any primaries or caucuses start, we'd be able to whittle that number down to something manageable by March, 2020, and avoid the scenario I envision above.

[louis c]

4. Joe Biden for President...Kamala Harris for Vice President

That's the winning ticket.

We need a comfortable candidate at the top of the ticket to beat Trump. People are sick of the drama. We energize our base with Kamala, who will be seen as an heir apparent.

We can win with that ticket all day long.

[customerserviceguy]

6. I think we can go with that

Joe Biden has the government experience needed to undo the damage that Trump has done. In fact, I give him credit for most of the legislative victories of the Obama administration, especially the ACA.

If Joe can get that nomination and that running mate, then announce that he only wants one term, then I think he can overcome a lot of despair on our side.

[libdem4life]

5. We need to fearlessly look carefully at the 2016 Primary Season. Fearlessly.

[louis c]

7. I don't understand your post.

[libdem4life]

8. 2016 Primary was not a shining example of Democratic judgment.

I don't want to "go there" but whoever polls the highest against the Republicans needs to be the nominee.

[Blue_true]

9. Wrong, however wins our party nomination delivered by primary voters need to be the nominee.

In 2016, that was Hillary, the party nominee. All the flack about superdelegate a, they never factored, voters gave her the nomination.

[libdem4life]

10. Whoever FAIRLY wins our party nomination...nothing to do with superdelegates or the EC.

Also, they need to go campaign/visit the delegate rich northern states, even when winning seems imminent. I watched every second of that entire primary season.

[Blue_true]

11. Hillary FAIRLY won the nomination.

Primary voters gave her the nomination.

I agree that in the General Hillary didn't go places that she should have and gone to medium sized and small cities. I felt that she spent too much time off the campaign trail, our next nominee need to do that differently.