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spooky3

(34,456 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:05 PM Oct 2018

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and predict that

Kavanaugh will be turned down (or withdraw before the final vote).

I think Flake, Manchin, and Murkowski will vote “no” and that there is a high probability that Collins will also.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here, and predict that (Original Post) spooky3 Oct 2018 OP
Skeptic here Anza404 Oct 2018 #1
Agree Anza... berksdem Oct 2018 #2
Flake has stated as such in his 60 minute interview Separation Oct 2018 #3
As EFFED up as things have been k-dub Oct 2018 #4
I think two Republicans mainstreetonce Oct 2018 #5
????? SCantiGOP Oct 2018 #7
I meant not put him in that position mainstreetonce Oct 2018 #9
There are a lot of interesting dyanmics going on. avebury Oct 2018 #6
I think Collins knows the GOP will be gunning for her regardless. She thwarted some of their efforts spooky3 Oct 2018 #10
Let's hope manchin votes no, please don't give republicans any cover. FloridaBlues Oct 2018 #8

berksdem

(595 posts)
2. Agree Anza...
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:09 PM
Oct 2018

Looking at the reality of the situation and he is appointed. Sad day for America if abs when it happens... GOPhers will not cross the party and vote no....

Separation

(1,975 posts)
3. Flake has stated as such in his 60 minute interview
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:14 PM
Oct 2018

Some people were just gushing that he reached across the aisle and said, "I want an investigation." Sure, he reached across the aisle, he also in the same breath said that if he wasn't up for reelection he would have never done it. There is nothing to gain, he says.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
5. I think two Republicans
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:20 PM
Oct 2018

would spare Pence being put in that position.

It would totally end Pence's career after Trump.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
7. ?????
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:41 PM
Oct 2018

Pence is as adamant as he can be that he supports Kavanaugh and wants him on the court. Can’t understand why you think him voting that way would do anything but enhance his standing with the Trump Party.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
9. I meant not put him in that position
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:15 PM
Oct 2018

He would be the one who would always carry the blame and that would not help him get any votes except from Trump stooges. He would have those angry crowds of women focusing on him. I think they might want to spare him that. I know how he would vote.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
6. There are a lot of interesting dyanmics going on.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:22 PM
Oct 2018

Collins is up for re-election in 2020. If she votes yes, they will be gunning for her and a victory for her is questionable at best.

Alaska has been very clear to Murkowski that they expect a No vote. If she votes no they will have her back and her re-election chances are pretty good. She lost her last primary race and had to run as a write in candidate. If she wants to remain a US Senator she can't piss off the people.

While Flake wants to vote yes, he is probably one of the few Senators to publicly admit that there are consequences to putting Kavanaugh on the bench and joint conservative beliefs might not be enough to pull Flake over the line to a yes vote. I hope Coons continues to talk to him so that the Rethugs can't beat a yes vot out of him. I really can't predict how Flake will come down on the vote. It might come down to his future plans. A No vote sets him up to take on Trump in 2020 when hopefully the Mueller probe will have come to a conclusion and we know what Trump is facing.

Manchin just may be the weakest link but he is not getting any cover from Heitkamp.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
10. I think Collins knows the GOP will be gunning for her regardless. She thwarted some of their efforts
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:34 PM
Oct 2018

on Obamacare. But she also knows that most independents and Democrats who may have supported her in the past will NOT vote for her if she votes "yes" on Kavanaugh. She has to win in the general, not just the primary.

It is concerning that she views the FBI report as "thorough" given what media reports have indicated since the middle of the day--that many witnesses were not contacted, etc. But while that sounds as though it is projecting a "yes" vote, it could be the opposite. There could be some facts negative for Kavanaugh, that have been confirmed in the report, despite the GOP spin. So she may feel she has enough information to support a "no."

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
8. Let's hope manchin votes no, please don't give republicans any cover.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:11 PM
Oct 2018

I agree Murkowski would be a no. Collins will vote to confirm. Than there's Flake who knows with him.

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