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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:36 PM Oct 2018

I might regret asking this question but what is the point of these doom and gloom posts ?

For very person who needs reassurance ten people are discouraged. It seems the cost of these doom and gloom posts outweigh the benefits, by a lot. They give succor to our enemies.

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I might regret asking this question but what is the point of these doom and gloom posts ? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 OP
An excellent conversation is being had here about this! Separation Oct 2018 #1
Posting doom and gloom is part of the job description of the paid trolls. royable Oct 2018 #2
I don't think they are all trolls. Misery loves company. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #5
Thank you. irresistable Oct 2018 #3
I don't know... but I have HAD it. GET ON THE GD phones people! Even worthless Corey Garndner hlthe2b Oct 2018 #4
I love you but I'm not looking to Republicans to do the right thing. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #6
You know.. I don't want to sit there tomorrow knowing I could have been making phone calls hlthe2b Oct 2018 #8
Some here want to give up on the freaking mid terms. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #10
Nothing energizes like retaking control.. See what I added to my last post. hlthe2b Oct 2018 #12
Probably shouldn't be, but 2016 made me deeply pessimistic about the American people Alhena Oct 2018 #7
I am pessimistic about 40% of them. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #9
People are focused on the battle, not the war. And they're scared shitless eleny Oct 2018 #11
Because it's human nature to share with friends. I don't get discouraged when others say they are. uppityperson Oct 2018 #13
If someone here wrote they were sick or broke DU would come to their aid. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #16
Fishing for sympathy and reassurance ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #14
We were fine toward November as long as nothing changed the national perspective Awsi Dooger Oct 2018 #15
Thank you! This is not the time for doom and gloom, it's time to dig our heels in and NEVER give up Thekaspervote Oct 2018 #17
Exactly my thoughts. mahina Oct 2018 #18
Good old-fashioned DU meltdown BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #19
That's easy Andy823 Oct 2018 #20
538 now down to 73.9% for the House Awsi Dooger Oct 2018 #21

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. I don't think they are all trolls. Misery loves company.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:41 PM
Oct 2018

But these doom and gloom posts have a depressing effect.

hlthe2b

(102,285 posts)
4. I don't know... but I have HAD it. GET ON THE GD phones people! Even worthless Corey Garndner
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:40 PM
Oct 2018

of Colorado is SUPPOSEDLY undecided and I got through to a lovely REAL person (Christine)


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. I love you but I'm not looking to Republicans to do the right thing.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:42 PM
Oct 2018

I am more focused on the day after...

hlthe2b

(102,285 posts)
8. You know.. I don't want to sit there tomorrow knowing I could have been making phone calls
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:45 PM
Oct 2018

to pressure Senators to do the right thing. I will know tomorrow that I did everything in my power to try to sway them.

Some here want you to give up. Don't!

The truth is we have no way of knowing if someone is really struggling with the decision--who has a spouse or daughters crying over this or a Mother telling them they will never forget if they vote for Kav. We don't know who may have actually been bothered by Kav's lack of judicial temperament. Take a chance. It costs you nothing (assuming you have a cell phone with minutes that most of us never use)

hlthe2b

(102,285 posts)
12. Nothing energizes like retaking control.. See what I added to my last post.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:48 PM
Oct 2018

Sitting here, giving up, is not going to energize anyone!

Alhena

(3,030 posts)
7. Probably shouldn't be, but 2016 made me deeply pessimistic about the American people
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:42 PM
Oct 2018

not everyone who thinks that is on Moscow's payroll. But you're probably right that we should make an effort not to share our despair here.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. I am pessimistic about 40% of them.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:45 PM
Oct 2018

There are more of us than there are of them. The Electoral College, gerrymandering, and the Senate hinder the will of the majority by design but it can not thwart the popular will forever.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
11. People are focused on the battle, not the war. And they're scared shitless
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:47 PM
Oct 2018

Not an answer to your question but my 2 cents.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
13. Because it's human nature to share with friends. I don't get discouraged when others say they are.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:49 PM
Oct 2018

Sometimes taking a break from instant news can help a person regain perspective.

What's the point of insulting people who are overwhelmed? I'm not saying you are, but i see this too often.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. If someone here wrote they were sick or broke DU would come to their aid.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:57 PM
Oct 2018

DU has done it again and again but when someone does a "we're done" post it has a depressing effect. It seems the benefits to reassuring them is outweighed by the discouragement it causes.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
15. We were fine toward November as long as nothing changed the national perspective
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:56 PM
Oct 2018

An FBI probe that we called for loudly on the senate floor and elsewhere, yet will officially not reveal enough to validate our claims, is potentially a changed national perspective.

If that is not understood then we are kidding ourselves.

I mentioned a week ago that Trump would chirp relentlessly until November about everything being a bogus partisan witch hunt, if this FBI investigation on Kavanaugh didn't find anything damning. That's the risk we undertook. Now just imagine how Trump will twist this each and every day. He'll have no shame in claiming the FBI document called Kavanaugh a saint and Dr. Ford a liar. Independents might be stupid enough to fall for it.

Situational awareness is everything. Beyond everything. We should never get stuck in today without understanding how tomorrow is impacted.

That 538 House forecast was 80-83% in recent weeks. Now 74.2%.That's already a drop from 10 point football favorite to 6.5 points.

Maybe the polling will settle and restore. But I'm not going to pretend everything is swell and we handled this perfectly. We basically gave them everything to complain about, from Schumer's immediate opposition to Feinstein withholding the information, and then demanding a late-term FBI investigation that almost certainly wasn't going to be full bore.

The other side understands big picture and situational awareness far better than we do. That's why they can do seemingly everything wrong and get away with it while we barely can afford one mistake.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
21. 538 now down to 73.9% for the House
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:50 PM
Oct 2018

That is getting close to the lowest it's been. Trump approval above 42% for the first time since August 23.

The nervous posts are perfectly legitimate. The lousy polling trend has been glaring for more than a week but nobody was willing to accept it. I saw virtually no mentions here. But I wasn't going to ignore it financially so I kept funding my Predictit account and playing more. Now every time I log-in to that site my theoretical edge has jumped another $50 or so. That's not the way I want it because all my positions are the wrong way, like Republicans to maintain the senate. That price was a farce at 64 and 65 cents last week.

I don't want that damn House number on 538 to edge downward toward 70% or lower because I'm convinced if the polling errs in either direction it will be against us. Those Simplistic Angry Males who dictated 2014 and 2016 are not going to stay home and yawn.

We need Trump to remain true to himself and say or do something absolutely despicable and outrageous. That mockery of Dr. Ford at the rally is a good start but he needs to repeat that type of thing in high profile fashion again and again. We are never going to win anything based on turnout or motivation. That is always stupidity. Anyone who proposes that type of thing has no idea what they are talking about. Elections are won based on preference and our fate is solely in the hands of independents.

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