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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI might regret asking this question but what is the point of these doom and gloom posts ?
For very person who needs reassurance ten people are discouraged. It seems the cost of these doom and gloom posts outweigh the benefits, by a lot. They give succor to our enemies.
Separation
(1,975 posts)royable
(1,264 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)But these doom and gloom posts have a depressing effect.
irresistable
(989 posts)Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
No, and it's not over now.
hlthe2b
(102,285 posts)of Colorado is SUPPOSEDLY undecided and I got through to a lovely REAL person (Christine)
Link to tweet
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I am more focused on the day after...
hlthe2b
(102,285 posts)to pressure Senators to do the right thing. I will know tomorrow that I did everything in my power to try to sway them.
Some here want you to give up. Don't!
The truth is we have no way of knowing if someone is really struggling with the decision--who has a spouse or daughters crying over this or a Mother telling them they will never forget if they vote for Kav. We don't know who may have actually been bothered by Kav's lack of judicial temperament. Take a chance. It costs you nothing (assuming you have a cell phone with minutes that most of us never use)
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)The mid terms are within our control.
hlthe2b
(102,285 posts)Sitting here, giving up, is not going to energize anyone!
Alhena
(3,030 posts)not everyone who thinks that is on Moscow's payroll. But you're probably right that we should make an effort not to share our despair here.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)There are more of us than there are of them. The Electoral College, gerrymandering, and the Senate hinder the will of the majority by design but it can not thwart the popular will forever.
eleny
(46,166 posts)Not an answer to your question but my 2 cents.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Sometimes taking a break from instant news can help a person regain perspective.
What's the point of insulting people who are overwhelmed? I'm not saying you are, but i see this too often.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)DU has done it again and again but when someone does a "we're done" post it has a depressing effect. It seems the benefits to reassuring them is outweighed by the discouragement it causes.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)It's a natural tendency.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)An FBI probe that we called for loudly on the senate floor and elsewhere, yet will officially not reveal enough to validate our claims, is potentially a changed national perspective.
If that is not understood then we are kidding ourselves.
I mentioned a week ago that Trump would chirp relentlessly until November about everything being a bogus partisan witch hunt, if this FBI investigation on Kavanaugh didn't find anything damning. That's the risk we undertook. Now just imagine how Trump will twist this each and every day. He'll have no shame in claiming the FBI document called Kavanaugh a saint and Dr. Ford a liar. Independents might be stupid enough to fall for it.
Situational awareness is everything. Beyond everything. We should never get stuck in today without understanding how tomorrow is impacted.
That 538 House forecast was 80-83% in recent weeks. Now 74.2%.That's already a drop from 10 point football favorite to 6.5 points.
Maybe the polling will settle and restore. But I'm not going to pretend everything is swell and we handled this perfectly. We basically gave them everything to complain about, from Schumer's immediate opposition to Feinstein withholding the information, and then demanding a late-term FBI investigation that almost certainly wasn't going to be full bore.
The other side understands big picture and situational awareness far better than we do. That's why they can do seemingly everything wrong and get away with it while we barely can afford one mistake.
Thekaspervote
(32,771 posts)mahina
(17,663 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,064 posts)of concern.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)That is getting close to the lowest it's been. Trump approval above 42% for the first time since August 23.
The nervous posts are perfectly legitimate. The lousy polling trend has been glaring for more than a week but nobody was willing to accept it. I saw virtually no mentions here. But I wasn't going to ignore it financially so I kept funding my Predictit account and playing more. Now every time I log-in to that site my theoretical edge has jumped another $50 or so. That's not the way I want it because all my positions are the wrong way, like Republicans to maintain the senate. That price was a farce at 64 and 65 cents last week.
I don't want that damn House number on 538 to edge downward toward 70% or lower because I'm convinced if the polling errs in either direction it will be against us. Those Simplistic Angry Males who dictated 2014 and 2016 are not going to stay home and yawn.
We need Trump to remain true to himself and say or do something absolutely despicable and outrageous. That mockery of Dr. Ford at the rally is a good start but he needs to repeat that type of thing in high profile fashion again and again. We are never going to win anything based on turnout or motivation. That is always stupidity. Anyone who proposes that type of thing has no idea what they are talking about. Elections are won based on preference and our fate is solely in the hands of independents.