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Hope ful sign? Senator Coons says Senator Flake wants to talk to him. (Original Post) triron Oct 2018 OP
Nice thought but, nope. dhol82 Oct 2018 #1
I think maybe this whole afternoon has been misinterpreted. Stare Decisis Oct 2018 #2
Stay tuned. News at eleven tomorrow night. dhol82 Oct 2018 #7
Mc connel does not have much of a hold on flake drray23 Oct 2018 #3
Would he be enough? dhol82 Oct 2018 #6
They wont be the deciding votes. drray23 Oct 2018 #9
We'll see what happens. dhol82 Oct 2018 #10
That's what I'm thinking wryter2000 Oct 2018 #22
Also, I thought Flake already said he would vote for confirmation. dhol82 Oct 2018 #8
No. It was before he called for the investigation. drray23 Oct 2018 #12
Oops, had a brain fart there. dhol82 Oct 2018 #15
As compared to their attempts to kill the ACA? mythology Oct 2018 #17
Good news...stay awake! BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #4
ANYBODY who can not see who KAVA is and what is going on here pangaia Oct 2018 #5
Yup. dhol82 Oct 2018 #13
I have no idea what my last word "don't" was about.... pangaia Oct 2018 #25
just imagine if it was a non white male who had behaved as kavanaugh did JI7 Oct 2018 #11
Please, he wouldn't have been nominated in the first place. dhol82 Oct 2018 #14
He'd have court experience though. BootinUp Oct 2018 #19
Yeah wryter2000 Oct 2018 #23
Sad. He never would have made it home. pangaia Oct 2018 #26
issues figuring out how he will survive budkin Oct 2018 #16
See what u can do Sen. Coons, but I ain't holdin my breath. BootinUp Oct 2018 #18
I contacted Seen. Coons today dansolo Oct 2018 #20
Flake's only issue is whether this clumsy whitewash can be seen as insulting to him Azathoth Oct 2018 #21
I think this is more likely SuprstitionAintthWay Oct 2018 #24
VOTE NO bdamomma Oct 2018 #27
How exactly does it help us to have people reporting on Flake's every move? nt MadDAsHell Oct 2018 #28

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
1. Nice thought but, nope.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:00 PM
Oct 2018

I would love to be more optimistic but McConnell is running the rig right now. No way they let this slip.

 

Stare Decisis

(229 posts)
2. I think maybe this whole afternoon has been misinterpreted.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:02 PM
Oct 2018

I think maybe tonight or tomorrow the scheme becomes more apparent.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
3. Mc connel does not have much of a hold on flake
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:06 PM
Oct 2018

Since Jeff flake is retiring, he can do whatever the hell he wants to do. Hopefully senator coons convinces him. It's just being reported that flake wants to talk to coons.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
9. They wont be the deciding votes.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:16 PM
Oct 2018

For all the criticism Manchin takes on DU, he never ever had been a deciding vote in favor of the GOP. He may vote yes if it's already 50 or 51 but wont be the deciding one. His whole schtick with his voters is to appear bipartisan. Voting accordingly when its already decided to fool the west virginian repubs.

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
22. That's what I'm thinking
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:49 PM
Oct 2018

If the Repigs have the votes, Manchin's vote isn't important for the confirmation. He (and other Dems in red states) can safely make themselves look "bipartisan."

Since the confirmation has become less assured, we've heard nothing about Dems voting for Kavanaugh. In fact, Heitkamp came out with a strong opinion on why she won't vote for him.

Now, there's even some (very little) sign that Capito, the R from WV, may be listening.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
12. No. It was before he called for the investigation.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:18 PM
Oct 2018

That day, he was confronted by women activists in the Senate elevator. He then talked to coons and reverted calling for the investigation. He has yet to announce his he will vote now.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
17. As compared to their attempts to kill the ACA?
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:22 PM
Oct 2018

McConnell is both a blithering idiot and trying to corral a party caucus that has some serious rifts. Not as significant rifts as the Republican House caucus, but significant and growing as Republicans in less red states are looking at reelection in upcoming years with the conflict between Republican primary voters and the rest of the public.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
4. Good news...stay awake!
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:07 PM
Oct 2018

RESIST!
CALL THE SENATORS!!!! NOW!
Have YOU called any senators yet?
If you did, THANK YOU!!!!

If you didn't, then JUST DO IT! Pleeeeeeeeease!

Call the Senate NOW! This means men too!
87% of the calls have been made by women...why is this considered a woman's issue? It is a human rights issue!
Call the Senate Judiciary Comm this week...

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/about/members
Call them and tell them that they will NOT get reelected by the majority of the US who is against Kavanaugh.
Call all senators and tell them that they are HYPOCRITES and you only vote for reps who have morals and values and who respect women. RESISTANCE WORKS!
Senate DC directory
(202)224-3121

Call the 8 "iffy" Dem and GOP senators too.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1011&pid=2543

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
5. ANYBODY who can not see who KAVA is and what is going on here
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:08 PM
Oct 2018

is fucking dumb.

If somebody, like McConnel or hatch or Grossley or Corndog, don;t give a shit, that's one thing.

But to NEED more time or SEE more 'evidence.' or 'struggle with what is right, is downright moronic !!!!!!!!

Don;t

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
20. I contacted Seen. Coons today
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:25 PM
Oct 2018

He is my senator, and I told him that Flake played him and the "investigation" was a sham.

Azathoth

(4,609 posts)
21. Flake's only issue is whether this clumsy whitewash can be seen as insulting to him
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:28 PM
Oct 2018

This was all about Flake making a grand gesture, and if his own party have essentially lied to his face and tossed his request in the trash, then it's a blow to his ego. He goes from being a Great Conciliator to the court buffoon. Susan Collins is comfortable in that role, but I don't think Flake is.

That's what all the "walking him through" stuff is about. Republicans are trying to spin this as a win for him, Democrats are trying to convince him he looks like the biggest sucker on the planet.

24. I think this is more likely
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:05 PM
Oct 2018

than the other thread's spec that the Flake-Coons powwow is because there's something harmful to Kav in the FBI's interviews of 9, count em, 9 people, all of whom were carefully pre-selected by McGahn, Grassley and McConnell so as to do Kav no harm.

Hope I'm wrong, and its about more than just Flake fluffing himself better.

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