Do we accept the contention that the Republicans WILL have a 2nd SC pick confirmed before the new

[OnDoutside]

Congress in January ? If that is true, then wouldn't it be better to have a damaged Kavanaugh occupying the seat for now, or someone like an Amy Coney Barrett, who is pretty certain to be voted through, and is every bit a reliable RWNJ like Gorsuch ?

The obvious answer is NONE of the above, but in the real world, even if Kavanaugh doesn't get through, McConnell would press ahead with someone like Barrett immediately and would push through even in a lame duck session.

Democrats can promise to properly investigate Kavanaugh, campaign on it, and utterly discredit him in the new year, not only on his being an attempted racist, belligerent drunk, perjurer but also a biased tainted jurist who would be under pressure to recuse himself from cases involving liberal groups.

[BumRushDaShow]

1. The only thing that Democrats need to do with Kavanaugh

is make sure he gets removed from the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals. And he sure as hell does NOT belong on the SCOTUS because if he DID get confirmed, he will become a raving vengeful lunatic after being damaged and rejected by his own legal community.

[OnDoutside]

2. All that's true but my contention is that the Republicans will have a 2nd confirmed by the time the

new Congress takes over. Do you accept that contention ? If not, why not ?

[BumRushDaShow]

3. They will get someone on the court before the end of the year

no doubt - although that depends on who they would nominate (many are assuming Barrett but she is also relatively "young" and may get pushback on that fact too). The problem right now is that this current nominee does NOT belong there. Whoever is put up next IF this current one fails, should have a similar thorough review and push-back as needed.

[OnDoutside]

6. McConnell never wanted Kavanaugh, so you'd have to think he would push for a Gorsuch type RWNJ as a

replacement, and given McConnell's record of ignoring "norms" will get a faster nomination process than Kavanaugh. Of that you can be certain. In fact, I would bet he has already someone on standby ready to go. McConnell wants his win, and damn the consequences.

[BumRushDaShow]

7. A bunch of Republicans didn't want him

but he was on the Federalist Society/Heritage Foundation short list. Interesting background on who is pulling strings behind the scenes.

[OnDoutside]

10. McConnell is the one that counts, especially if Kavanaugh was the one Trump wanted...He'd be less

inclined next time.

Thanks for that article.

[BumRushDaShow]

12. Yes - he controls the floor

and he also doesn't want to be made a fool of... although his arrogance and faux attempts at throwing around his "power by microphone", has backfired several times already, the last time being McCain's " " for the ACA repeal.... which is why he jammed through the tax cuts for the rich in order to salve the previous embarrassing loss. He'll keep mouthing off but moving the timing if the doubt is too high at the time.

[OnDoutside]

13. It's so close his chins are flapping !

[BumRushDaShow]

15. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fullduplexxx]

4. You'll need 67 senators to remove him if you get him impeached. What are the odds of dems taking 67

Seante Seats?

[OnDoutside]

5. Again, you are correct, but let's move away from the impeach Kavanaugh discussion. If you accept

that one way or another, McConnell will get a 2nd Republican on the SC by January, who would be in Democrats strategic interest, a drunken violent slob who can become a focal point of firing up voters in November (with the promise of an investigation next year), or a boring RWNJ who would be certain to be confirmed ?

[kairos12]

14. ...and a complete legal shield for Donnie 2 Scoops.

[Shrek]

8. It doesn't matter if he's discredited

Once he's on the court for the rest of his life, his votes and opinions are as binding as those of any other justice.

Edit: clarity

[mythology]

9. No I don't accept that.

First it doesn't matter to me if we lose, it matters to me that we stand up for victims, that we begin to punish things like perjury, that we fight against a foaming at the mouth buffoon.

Secondly I think it will help us electorally to defeat Kavanaugh. Not just in November, but in future elections by reminding people of the importance of judicial nominations.

Third, I think Barrett with her overt hostility to abortion rights will have problems.

Four it will help reinforce the ineptness of the Trump administration and the modem Republican party.

[OnDoutside]

11. That's not the question though.

"Do we accept the contention that the Republicans WILL have a 2nd SC pick confirmed before the new Congress in January ?"

I think we both accept that Democrats will fight for this SC seat all the way, but they do not have the numbers to prevent a RWNJ getting the seat, before the end of this Congress. Even if Kavanaugh should somehow not get confirmed, McConnell will immediately put someone else up and even though it would be during a Lame Duck session, he would push that nomination through.

In that situation, there are benefits to it being Kavanaugh rather than someone like Barrett or Hardiman or whoever.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

16. Oh fer pete sakes - lets just go for whats right and just and true. This isnt a reality tv show,

doesn't need to be all this scheming and conjecture.

[OnDoutside]

18. This isn't a case of doing something furtive, but rather acknowledging the likelihood that another

RWNJ will be on the SC by January, and speculating on how that might play out.

[grantcart]

17. Yes