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Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 07:57 AM Oct 2018

black man handcuffed by police when moving TV into his new home

https://newsone.com/3830220/black-homeowner-handcuffed-video-kansas/

A happy experience turned nightmarish for Karle Robinson, 61, who a police officer confronted and restrained in Tonganoxie on Aug. 19, according to the Kansas City Star. The incident, shedding light on wrongful arrests of people of color, was motivated by race, Robinson said.

“If I’d been a white man, you know that wouldn’t happen,” Robinson said on Wednesday, watching body camera video of the incident. “I’m being handcuffed right here on my own damn property.”

Robinson was nearly finished with his move and about to take a TV into his home when an officer approached him at 2:30 a.m. that day. He asked for help, but the cop instead treated him as if he was a burglary suspect. Robinson informed the officer that he had just moved into the home and that his ownership papers were inside his place. The cop chose to handcuff Robinson and wait for backup to corroborate the man’s story.

“They’re thinking I’m stealing,” he said. “I’ve been hearing this for 40 years — getting pulled over, being searched. I’m not going to let this go.”

A second officer arrived at the home and joined the first cop in questioning Robinson. The officers then went into the man’s home, found ownership documentation and released Robinson from his restraints. The incident, perhaps surprisingly, did end on a better note when the officers apologized and helped him move the TV, the video showed.

Robinson, however, filed a complaint with the police department about the incident.
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black man handcuffed by police when moving TV into his new home (Original Post) Demovictory9 Oct 2018 OP
K&R, The officer could have let Robinson go and get his papers uponit7771 Oct 2018 #1
The officer could have used better judgement and Merlot Oct 2018 #15
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2018 #23
Robinson did the right thing. lark Oct 2018 #2
"Karle Robinson, 61" BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #3
I'm sick of this malaise Oct 2018 #4
Me too, Malaise lillypaddle Oct 2018 #5
KNR Lucinda Oct 2018 #6
The cops should be suspended at the very least. Nitram Oct 2018 #7
First of all firstwife Oct 2018 #8
Hopefully the police dept will now be BUYING him a new tv Merlot Oct 2018 #16
I am SO sick of this shit! kag Oct 2018 #9
"I'm not going to let this go" dalton99a Oct 2018 #10
Toilet Paper Donald is empowering racists across the country. NoMoreRepugs Oct 2018 #11
Yes, because mercuryblues Oct 2018 #12
It was obvious to the cops that he had stolen the wrong TV.... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #17
This is just disgusting and infuriating karin_sj Oct 2018 #13
These cops should be kicked off the force TNLib Oct 2018 #14
So I'll get trashed for this tavernier Oct 2018 #18
But did he forkol Oct 2018 #21
Why handcuff him first? Two asshole cops can deal with a single citizen. nt USALiberal Oct 2018 #22
He was moving the TV ... INTO ... the house, not out of it uponit7771 Oct 2018 #24
According to the people who live in that neighborhood, there had not been any tblue37 Oct 2018 #26
Ok, I see that now. tavernier Oct 2018 #27
attention du ers , this crap has been going on behind the scenes for decades. AllaN01Bear Oct 2018 #19
Dang! Who keeps ownership papers for a TV, unless it's a recent purchase? TheBlackAdder Oct 2018 #20
I think the papers were for the house, not the tv tavernier Oct 2018 #25

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
15. The officer could have used better judgement and
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:26 AM
Oct 2018

could have made the evaluation that the man did indeed live there.

How many thieves move stuff into a house?

Side note: in college (back in the 80's) I had a black friend who bought a tv from a friend and carried it back to his house. He made a joke about "black man carrying a tv" which at the time I thought was really a joke. Now I know it wasn't.

lark

(23,121 posts)
2. Robinson did the right thing.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 09:09 AM
Oct 2018

The police did the wrong thing in not letting him get his paperwork from the house.

BumRushDaShow

(129,128 posts)
3. "Karle Robinson, 61"
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 09:15 AM
Oct 2018

Not a 17-year old, not a 24-year old, a fucking 61 year old man AND a Veteran.



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rolandsmartin

@rolandsmartin

Police bodycam footage shows Black Kansas homeowner cuffed and questioned on his own front lawn about moving a TV into his house! http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-police-kansas-black-homeowner-handcuffs-front-lawn-20181004-story.htmlhttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-police-kansas-black-homeowner-handcuffs-front-lawn-20181004-story.html
12:59 PM - Oct 4, 2018

firstwife

(115 posts)
8. First of all
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:02 AM
Oct 2018

I hope they had a goddamn warrant to go in the house, but he was probably so scared and eager to prove his innocence he let them in. Second, he needs to sue the fuck out of that goddamn police department. JHFC this pisses me off.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
16. Hopefully the police dept will now be BUYING him a new tv
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:28 AM
Oct 2018

instead of just helping him move his old one.

Would have been so much easier to get it right the first time.

kag

(4,079 posts)
9. I am SO sick of this shit!
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:06 AM
Oct 2018

Meanwhile, white guys are shooting up schools, concerts, movie theaters, etc., murdering their families, DUI'ing all over the place, and what do they get from cops? "Afternoon, Sir." "Have a good day, Sir." "You take care, now."

This HAS. TO. STOP.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
17. It was obvious to the cops that he had stolen the wrong TV....
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:42 AM
Oct 2018

and was returning it to then steal the right one......

And, I'll bet at first this cop was expecting to receive accolades from his superior for what he had found...

TNLib

(1,819 posts)
14. These cops should be kicked off the force
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:26 AM
Oct 2018

First of all why would a robber ask the police help to move a TV? A bunch of racist cops out there.

tavernier

(12,393 posts)
18. So I'll get trashed for this
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:42 AM
Oct 2018

but it was 3 a.m. and they were patrolling a neighborhood that had multiple break ins that month, and they were not rude or physically aggressive from what I watched on the video. I guess I would have made the same call in their situation, regardless whether the tv mover was black or white or yellow or green.

forkol

(113 posts)
21. But did he
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:19 AM
Oct 2018

have to cuff the guy? Couldn't he have had the guy sit tight in view and then call for backup. How about they ask the guy for his id and do a check? And there was probably evidence that he was moving as well, maybe like a moving truck.

I wondered what would have happened if he could not produce his ownership papers. And there's no way in the hell I would have let the cops in my house, too easy for them to realize they messed up and to try to 'trump' up some BS charges or plant some evidence.

I also looked up the date -- that was late Saturday night early Sunday morning. I've helped many people move, and I will say that I might not have gone that late, but I've gone well past midnight in helping people move -- especially if you have to get the rental truck back the next morning.

tblue37

(65,409 posts)
26. According to the people who live in that neighborhood, there had not been any
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 06:11 AM
Oct 2018

break-ins. That's just the excuse the cops used for harassing a black man, like when they claim someone they're harassing "fits the description" of some nonexistent suspect in some nonexistent crime.

tavernier

(12,393 posts)
27. Ok, I see that now.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 06:36 AM
Oct 2018

I was going by the video because the article was loaded with advertisements and click bait. Thanks for mentioning that. It does change the circumstances, doesn’t it? I believe I would have my lawyer filing requests to see documentation of all of these break ins that precipitated their actions.

AllaN01Bear

(18,268 posts)
19. attention du ers , this crap has been going on behind the scenes for decades.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:49 AM
Oct 2018

some of it tragicly for blacks and other minorites and including lgbt members . all shoved under the rug. now brought out into the open and encouraged by the he who shall not be named living at the white house .

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