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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:50 AM Oct 2018

What does it mean if cloture doesn't pass?

You go straight to a vote, no debate?
No vote, no confirmation?

Senators often vote 'yes' on cloture but 'no' on the main vote.
Do they ever do the reverse (assuming option one above is true?)

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las

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What does it mean if cloture doesn't pass? (Original Post) LAS14 Oct 2018 OP
Cloture ends debate. If a cloture vote fails it just means more debate. PoliticAverse Oct 2018 #1
Oh, so the 30 hours is the max they can continue to debate? nt LAS14 Oct 2018 #3
The "30 hours" only comes AFTER they invoke "cloture" BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #5
Right, that's what I meant. Thanks much. nt LAS14 Oct 2018 #6
Yeah but there are 2 different "debates" we are talking about BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #7
If cloture doesn't pass, the debate continues YessirAtsaFact Oct 2018 #2
No BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #4

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. Cloture ends debate. If a cloture vote fails it just means more debate.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:53 AM
Oct 2018

Senators sometimes vote for more debate even though they want the vote to occur now to placate their
colleagues on the opposite side of the aisle.

BumRushDaShow

(129,114 posts)
7. Yeah but there are 2 different "debates" we are talking about
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 11:10 AM
Oct 2018

The "debate" that gets cut of with "cloture" is not the same as the "debate" when they are in the final stretch. And usually if they don't get cloture, someone will put in a motion to go on with their regular legislative business scheduled for the day. E.g., other nominations, discussions of legislation that has come out of committee, unanimous consent requests like naming post offices... Other times, they may just go into "recess subject to the call of the chair" and the chamber empties.

BumRushDaShow

(129,114 posts)
4. No
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 10:55 AM
Oct 2018

It means that in order to start the FINAL confirmation debate/vote process, you have to be able to "proceed". And if you can't "proceed" at that time (with an affirmative vote to invoke "cloture" ), then you would need to schedule something ELSE on the calendar to do for the day.

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