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Damn, I wish we could get rid of the Senate.
But I dont guess theres a hope in hell of that happening.
I just googled and there are 39 million people in California. in Wyoming there are 573,000. There have been posts about this before.
Thats so disgusting that the vote of the people in a thinly populated state can count so much more than for those in a densely populated state, at least as far as the Senate is concerned.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Oh you mean proportionally? My brain isnt working today sorry.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)The GOP acts like the Constitution is a holy book. Instead, it's just a 1st draft of how a Democracy might function. It has major flaws, this being one that the FF never anticipated could become so egregious.
California should consider breaking into at least 3 states. WY & MT, SD & ND, VT & NH, all should be consolidated.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Just like a good faith GOP plan to address Climate Change, I know it will never ever ever happen, so it certainly isn't a serious proposal.
America = Fucked.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)Our house isn't representative at all.
Our senate is a joke.
The White House is one man who says neo-nazis are fine people. One man not chosen by the plurality of voters.
How we get a new one, I don't know, but this one's legitimacy is fading by the day. I'm hoping we take back the House and Senate, but it's clear the Republicans have done massive amounts of damage to the legitimacy, respect, prestige of the government.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)The senate is broken due to how unproportional it is, the house has been ruined by gerrymandering, the scotus has lifetime appointments with no accountability, and the president isn't even elected by the popular vote. Our government system is literally broken from the top down.
delisen
(6,044 posts)Environmentalists and ecologists, retirees, intentional community people, work from home people, outdoor sports entrepreneurs,
Don't tell me there are not 100,000 voting age Democrats who would want to do so.
Some of them may need to be subsidized for the moving expenses and initial costs- this can be done by soliciting funds-liberal billionaires, fund me campaigns, other donors.
I think the influx of caring and competent people would be an asset to Wyoming, raise income levels and increase opportunities for current residents, diversify the economy,
There are 3-4 underpopulated states who could benefit from such a program.
The key is that the newcomers be truly interested, not-prejudiced, not overwhelm the environs
States with low density populations present an opportunity for planned growth that can preserve and work with nature to create wonderful places to live and work.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)In the coming centuries will we have wealthy interests moving large groups
strategically about the nation as they are needed for various elections? Residency
requirements can be arranged. Just as conquerors in the past moved
populations about to consolidate their gains.
delisen
(6,044 posts)competition may be a reality.
from Mother Jones:https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/10/new-hampshire-libertarian-movement/
In recent years, Keene residents have been cited for violating the citys open-container law (during a city council meeting), for indecent exposure and firearms possession (simultaneously), and for smoking marijuana (inside a police station). These incidents share a common root: They were orchestrated by members of the Free State Projecta plan, hatched in 2001, to get 20,000 libertarian activists to quit their jobs, sell their homes, and relocate to New Hampshire en masse. It is a political movement in the most literal sense.
I believe that with changing demographics in the US and global climate issues, and sustainability concerns people who lean toward or are democratic in outlook and affiliation are better positioned to create new communities that work for people.
Personally I see Delaware and Rhode Island as too densely populated to be good candidates
MarcA
(2,195 posts)Intentional or Co-op Democracies may have a place in the future.
And thank you for bringing up Intentional Communities. Would like
for more people to be familiar with them.
john657
(1,058 posts)we enjoy the wide open spaces and the beauty of our state.
Wyoming is doing just fine as it is.
delisen
(6,044 posts)I do
If Wyoming was willing to leave me and my family alone, I would probably do as you say
However Michael Enzi, John Barrasso, and Liz Cheney are working hard to destroy my life and that of my children-ad its not just my family they are working to destroy. Should I not care about children being ripped from their families at the Texas border?
You may be happy with them the legislators who are enabling evil but I'm not.
I want to work with people I know in Wyoming who welcome like-minded people from other parts of the US.
If you want to come to my state, which is far more populous, and help us figure out how to make our votes be counted, we could use your support. We are fighting in there courts for a paper trail because our voting machines are easily hacked. Our battle may end up in the Supreme Court. Wyomings senators are about to vote to put a corrupt judge on the court.
Damn right I want Barrasso and Enzi out of the senate.
john657
(1,058 posts)what I, and most of Wyoming citizens don't want is for our beautiful state becoming over populated and ruining our way of living.
I was born and raised in Wyoming, I left for 8 years due to my days in the Army, haven't left since, we own a very successful construction company and are happy with our life in WY.
Hmmm, come to think of it, with that many more newcomers, it would be a big boon to our company, in that case,
We welcome with open arms.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)I wouldn't stress on it.
john657
(1,058 posts)Bettie
(16,110 posts)more to become overpopulated.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)raccoon
(31,111 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)And then just have one congressional chamber. We'd still need to have districts. Instead of 435 representatives, we should have more like 6 or 7 thousand.
Of course, none of this is going to happen. Tyranny of the minority is here to stay.