If Manchin is a yes, should he be thrown out of the party?

[Doodley]

Not for freely exercising his right to vote as he wishes, but for voting for a nominee who showed under testimony that he is a partisan POS by attacking the integrity of Democrats.

[brooklynite]

1. Let McConnell stay as Majority Leader: THAT'LL teach those DINOS!

[lame54]

2. I'm not undecided - YES

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. Exile him

to West Virginia.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. No, but only because he counts as a Dem for purposes of who's got a majority

and therefore who gets to control committees. Otherwise he's pretty useless most of the time.

[violetpastille]

7. +1

By the record, the worst Democrat Senator is better than the "worst/best" Republican Senator. (Rand!)

[Liberty Belle]

36. That said, he should be quietly told that for his next election he will be primaried,

Even if that's four years away, and that if he votes "yes" as the deciding vote he will not be given any plum committee assignments if Dems take back control of the Senate.

They should encourage him to get a sudden case of the flu and just miss the vote, since an absence is as good as a no vote.

[LandOfHopeAndDreams]

40. It's 6 Years Away

6 Years is an eternity.

[aeromanKC]

5. If only we had a few more Manchin's

McConnell would not have the gavel!!

[Kaleva]

6. It'd be better to toss out all Dems who didn't vote Nov. 2016

[Blue_true]

17. Or who wrote in "Bernie".

Let's get to the source of the current problem.

[Kaleva]

23. "Registered Voters Who Stayed Home Probably Cost Clinton The Election " is the source of the problem

About 35% of Democrats who were registered in 2016 didn't vote.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/registered-voters-who-stayed-home-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/

[Anon-C]

35. This.

[Timewas]

8. Any Dem

Who votes yes for this ass hat is not a dem... no ifs and's or buts about it...

[procon]

9. How does that work... 'throw him out of the party'?

By fiat, do we get to vote, I don't recall seeing that done before. What is the procedure?

[sarisataka]

14. We will hold

A tribal council and vote him out of the party

... Unless he found the Senate immunity Idol, then he is safe for this vote

[quadtetra]

16. The other Dem Senators expel him from the caucus.

You probably can't stop him from registering as a Dem. But the other Senators can vote to expel him from their caucus and stop recognizing him as a Dem. As far as elections go, the DNC also refuses to recognize him as a Dem and refuses to support him in any way.

[procon]

32. That's a rather toothless option, maybe primary him out of office?

We might lose that seat, but other than a placeholder, what does he do for Democrats if he votes against theparty on critical issues?

[quadtetra]

10. Only if he votes for a Republican leader

If a Democrat ever votes for a Republican majority leader or speaker, then that Sen or Rep needs to be expelled immediately. But otherwise no.

Even if Manchin voted with Republicans 100% of the time, except when voting for majority leader, that's still better than a actual Republican that votes Republican including for leader.

[WeekiWater]

11. No. NT

[Autumn]

12. If the women voters in his state decide to throw him out I won't hold it against them.

I don't have any say in the matter.

[eleny]

13. When he switches Party, then what

I don't know what should be done. Maintaining numbers helps maintain control of committees.

And that's terribly important as we see today with the Judiciary. How different things would be if we had a Senate majority.

So we live though this horror and then we vote next month.

[underthematrix]

15. no. Not until after we win the senate.

[book_worm]

18. No.

[scheming daemons]

19. So... as punishment... we're going to make McConnell's majority.... larger?

We need 51 people with "D" next to their names. We need a Democratic Majority Leader, because the Majority Leader controls the calendar.

Kicking a sitting senator out of the party's caucus, regardless how they vote, would be a very dumb move.

[LAS14]

20. It's in our interest not to lose that Democratic seat in W. Va. If....

.... voting for K would be a strong factor in his keeping his seat, I'd go along with it. I'm gambling that a really awful conservative instead of, maybe, a morally respectable conservative is better than two or more conservatives of any stripe. We need to take back the senate!

[mythology]

21. Have you seen how Shelley Moore Capito votes?

Manchin isn't my ideal candidate, but compared to who else gets voted for in West Virginia, I'll take him.

[davekriss]

22. He should be voted out

But in the meantime treated as a pariah.

[LAS14]

24. Didn't know much about Manchin. This thread drove me to FiveThirtyEight.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/joe-manchin-iii/

Pretty neat resource that I didn't know about. (This kind of breakdown. I did know about FiveThirtyEight.)

[idcdu]

25. Yes. Throw him with the Thugs.

Let's stop pretending. If Manchin votes yes, he's done, and if he votes no, his job is secure.

WV isn't that stupid.

[Loki Liesmith]

27. You have it exactly backward

[Fred Sanders]

29. 0 Recs. for the thread, including you. I rest my case. Support Democrats.

For the record...

Summary of voting record: Senator Manchin opposes big business, environmental protection, financial sector regulation, gun control, hawkish foreign policy, foreign and humanitarian aid, humane immigration policy, taxing the middle class, military spending, domestic surveillance and supports taxing businesses, restrict money in politics, consumer protection, disaster relief, funding education, public health, labor rights and wages, lgbt rights, internet freedom, a robust safety net, higher spending, women's rights.

http://politicsthatwork.com/voting-record/Joe-Manchin-412391

Sorry, now I rest my case...rebuttal?

[procon]

34. Why does he even bother pretending to be a Democrat?nt

[Fred Sanders]

37. Many at DU attempt the same pretending, especially around elections...some know MIR is watching.

[Loki Liesmith]

26. No

He’s a warm body. All he needs to be.

[BannonsLiver]

28. Yes for sure

Oh wait, he’ll be replaced by the fanatical, foaming at the mouth RWNJ he’s running against? On second thought I’d prefer Manchin, warts and all. Because I have a functioning brain.

[NurseJackie]

30. Oh brother!

[bearsfootball516]

31. No.

I'd rather have a Democrat who votes with Trump 60 percent of the time than a Republican who votes with Trump 100 percent of the time.

[jalan48]

33. Who knows. He may pull a Lieberman soon and then we can all hate him with no reservations.

[Cartoonist]

38. We threw out Franken

I'm pretty sure he would vote no on Kav.

[wryter2000]

39. As long as he's in the D column

He contributes to a majority, should we win the Senate. That's worth more than getting back at him for his vote.

However, I hope every woman in his life gives him a long talk about his priorities.

[LibDemAlways]

41. Next to the acronym DINO there should be

a picture of Manchin. He's a turd, but as long as there's a D after his name, he counts in the D column numberswise, so he's at least a useful turd.