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Susan Sarandon must be thrilled... (Original Post) Aristus Oct 2018 OP
I hope that witch is happy now for what she did sunonmars Oct 2018 #1
Well, how is this Sarandon's fault this time? idcdu Oct 2018 #2
Campaigning against Hillary Clinton depressed turnout. In general, and for Hillary specifically. Aristus Oct 2018 #6
I think our rage should be aimed at another individual named Susan. liberalnarb Oct 2018 #16
Rage outside of Maine is useless. Aristus Oct 2018 #18
We Can Multi-task.. we have plenty of "rage" for both fucking Susans.. Cha Oct 2018 #65
Yes we can multitask Gothmog Oct 2018 #69
Mahalo nui loa for the Cha Oct 2018 #72
susan sarandon said trump is better than Clinton so she is a right wing element JI7 Oct 2018 #7
Maybe, but, one thing's for sure, Vice President Bemie Sanders would have been available InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #27
Hindsight is always 20/20. But you have to wonder what today would be like had Liz or Bernie been Blue_true Oct 2018 #30
Yes, Liz too, but, wouldn't call that hindsight... simply put, it would've been smart. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #31
With either, you would have had issues that have been addressed many times in the past... George II Oct 2018 #56
Sarandon led voters away from Clinton, and toward Putin. Orsino Oct 2018 #37
She's an asshole and assholes were responsible. dem4decades Oct 2018 #53
Thanx Manch.. disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #3
This picture samplegirl Oct 2018 #8
Seriously!! WTF?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #28
Yeah her voting for Kavanah to be on the SC sucks. Autumn Oct 2018 #4
There wouldn't have been a Kavanaugh nomination to vote on without Sarandon scheming daemons Oct 2018 #11
Hillary won. By over 3 million votes. Autumn Oct 2018 #14
Jill Stein's vote count was enough to cost Clinton Wisconsin and Michigan scheming daemons Oct 2018 #15
We should campaign to outlaw any party other than Democrats and Republicans, Autumn Oct 2018 #19
You just don't get it. Blue_true Oct 2018 #32
Yeah I do fucking get it. We should have done something about that EC the first time it Autumn Oct 2018 #35
Trump won the electoral college by 78000 votes Gothmog Oct 2018 #71
Nor a Gorsuch SC. Nor 1200 orphaned kids in lockup on the southern border Bfd Oct 2018 #24
Sarandon is responsible for the loss of Roe Gothmog Oct 2018 #5
Thank You Bfd Oct 2018 #10
From my Twitter feed Gothmog Oct 2018 #13
Truth. Bfd Oct 2018 #25
This! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2018 #38
Positively Giddy! "Trump will bring about the revolution immediately!" Bfd Oct 2018 #9
I think she meant, you know, "The Revolution" anarch Oct 2018 #54
EXACTLY BigDemVoter Oct 2018 #12
Thank Manchin Devil Child Oct 2018 #17
If it were not for Susan Sarandon, there might never have been a vote on Kavanaugh. Aristus Oct 2018 #20
I see in your world Susan Sarandon has near mythical powers in US politics Devil Child Oct 2018 #22
That's fine. Aristus Oct 2018 #23
Thank you for your honest post. Bfd Oct 2018 #26
So you never heard of television. Sarandon bashing our candidate on the national news fucking Blue_true Oct 2018 #33
Matters? Possibly, but not to the degree asserted here that Sarandon single-handedly swung the vote Devil Child Oct 2018 #36
If 13% of her Twitter followers are from Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin... OilemFirchen Oct 2018 #39
"She certainly didn't help" Devil Child Oct 2018 #41
Seems irrational to pretend that blaming one person is a defacto denial of blame for any other. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #47
She only needed to sway about 77,000 voters to get those two Supreme Court nominations of.... George II Oct 2018 #59
NO, Sarandon has a BIG LYING MOUTH.. & she sucked in too many gullibles.. Cha Oct 2018 #67
Nor would there have been a vote on gang-rapist KKKavanaugh if we had put VP Sanders InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #29
Do you believe that Sanders would have accepted the VP nomination if it was offered to him? TexasTowelie Oct 2018 #48
Yes, absolutely. Bernie showed himself to be a team player. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #49
An amusing notion that I would debate in another forum. TexasTowelie Oct 2018 #52
Can you demonstrate how, please? Remember, the convention wrapped up on July 28.... George II Oct 2018 #61
"VP Sanders"? I thought he was a Senator. George II Oct 2018 #60
Not to mention Jill Stein oberliner Oct 2018 #21
She is busy right now counting her rubles. nt Blue_true Oct 2018 #34
Each to our own, but my personal view of Sarandon, Stein, and those other so-called progressives who still_one Oct 2018 #40
Yup, worthless to say the least. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #50
I will never forgive Sarandon for helping to elect trump Gothmog Oct 2018 #42
Bernie too. djg21 Oct 2018 #43
I saw this cartoon on JPR Gothmog Oct 2018 #44
Someone at JPR is unhappy? Aw. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #45
Odd place to find reality like that!! Cha Oct 2018 #68
The posters on JPR really hate this cartoon Gothmog Oct 2018 #70
I can imagine.. Reality staring them Cha Oct 2018 #73
The revolution is coming sooner, dontchaknow. joshcryer Oct 2018 #46
Losing healthcare coverage is what revolutions are like apparently. JHan Oct 2018 #55
Classic historical materialism. joshcryer Oct 2018 #57
She's an idiot. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #51
The typical voter or non voter has no clue what Sarandons politics are and CentralMass Oct 2018 #58
Okay. Aristus Oct 2018 #62
Susan Sarandon was a RF in the 2016 Rigged in "election" Cha Oct 2018 #63
Debra Messing Would Rather Be Stuck In An Elevator With Donald Trump Than Susan Sarandon Gothmog Oct 2018 #64
Lesser of two evils. betsuni Oct 2018 #66
 

idcdu

(170 posts)
2. Well, how is this Sarandon's fault this time?
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 04:11 PM
Oct 2018

Right-wing Manchin is voting incorrectly. Right wing elements needs to be removed from the Democratic Party.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
6. Campaigning against Hillary Clinton depressed turnout. In general, and for Hillary specifically.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 04:17 PM
Oct 2018

I believe that with all my heart.

Advertising works. It wouldn't be a billion-dollar industry if it didn't.

The next SCOTUS justice should have been Hillary's call.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
18. Rage outside of Maine is useless.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 04:54 PM
Oct 2018

Mainers need to get rid of her.

I heard she's going to be stepping down at the next election, though. Perfect. Burn down the house, then skip town...

Cha

(297,323 posts)
65. We Can Multi-task.. we have plenty of "rage" for both fucking Susans..
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 11:13 PM
Oct 2018


Susan Sarandon: Clinton ‘more dangerous’ than Trump

snip//

Actress Susan Sarandon says Hillary Clinton's
foreign policy makes her a greater national security risk than Donald Trump, adding that it's "inevitable" the White House hopeful will be indicted.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282143-susan-sarandon-clinton-more-dangerous-than-trump

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
27. Maybe, but, one thing's for sure, Vice President Bemie Sanders would have been available
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 05:19 PM
Oct 2018

to cast the tie-breaking vote if needed to confirm a pro-choice Justice in the mold of RBG. That one decision would've changed history... sigh.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
30. Hindsight is always 20/20. But you have to wonder what today would be like had Liz or Bernie been
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 05:25 PM
Oct 2018

chosen as #2.

George II

(67,782 posts)
56. With either, you would have had issues that have been addressed many times in the past...
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:30 PM
Oct 2018

...that many Americans wouldn't have been able to reconcile:

1. Two candidates from the Northeast
2. Two candidates from the Northeast
3. Two candidates who were women
4. Only one Democrat on the ticket

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
11. There wouldn't have been a Kavanaugh nomination to vote on without Sarandon
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 04:46 PM
Oct 2018

...and her harming Clinton's campaign.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
15. Jill Stein's vote count was enough to cost Clinton Wisconsin and Michigan
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 04:51 PM
Oct 2018

And that was due to Sarandon.

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
19. We should campaign to outlaw any party other than Democrats and Republicans,
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 04:55 PM
Oct 2018

It's not like 2016 was the first time there were third party's on the presidential ballot.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
32. You just don't get it.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 05:28 PM
Oct 2018

3 million more vote coming mostly from California, Oregon and Washington state is fundamentally meaningless when the Electoral College decide who won, even if a state is won with only 1 vote.

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
35. Yeah I do fucking get it. We should have done something about that EC the first time it
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 05:36 PM
Oct 2018

installed the cheating loser. Instead? We fucking moved on.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
71. Trump won the electoral college by 78000 votes
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 11:41 PM
Oct 2018

Stein and Sarandon are why Roe will be overturned.

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
10. Thank You
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 04:44 PM
Oct 2018

Yes, She played a role in the loss of our Nation.

It's clear now, what revolution she was really all excited about.

And the true damage to our nation hasn't even began.

Thank goodness multi millionaire Susan can comfortably fly out of the US to one of her safe-homes abroad.

She can watch America devolve from afar.



 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
9. Positively Giddy! "Trump will bring about the revolution immediately!"
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 04:37 PM
Oct 2018

Not sure exactly what revolution she was stumping for.
It sure wasn't women, children, American workers, taxpayers or consumers.
It sure wasn't for human rights, our environment, Constitution, rule of law or our global allies.

Just who exactly was Sarandon so giddy over?
Guess we're finding out !

anarch

(6,535 posts)
54. I think she meant, you know, "The Revolution"
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:12 PM
Oct 2018

The working class rising up to seize the means of production, and creating a Marxist paradise and so on.

As someone who's basically on the kooky far left myself, I think I get where she was coming from...sort of. But unless you're like, ten years old or something, there's no excuse for this kind of simplistic thinking, and it was irresponsible for someone with any kind of influence to say something like this, particularly in the context of the 2016 election cycle.

Unless it was "some people feel Anus-face will bring the Revolution immediately, but that's stupid; everybody needs to focus on where we actually are, not some teenage riot fantasy bullshit, and by the way it really wouldn't be that great for rich Hollywood-type people if there's a violent upheaval that overthrows the plutocracy and seeks to redistribute wealth. So go vote a straight Democratic ticket from now until there are no more Republicans in any elected office anywhere, right on down to dogcatcher!"

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
20. If it were not for Susan Sarandon, there might never have been a vote on Kavanaugh.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 04:55 PM
Oct 2018

Or even a nomination.

Sarandon was pivotal in depressing Democratic turnout, and spurring left-leaning independents to stay home or cast a protest vote for Bernie.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
22. I see in your world Susan Sarandon has near mythical powers in US politics
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 05:00 PM
Oct 2018

Anyone captivated by Sarandon's message was never going to vote for a Democratic candidate. To suggest she was able to sway voters with her 600k twitter followers to Clinton's 23million is absurd in my opinion.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
23. That's fine.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 05:04 PM
Oct 2018

I was a huge fan of Bernie Sanders. But when I realized he had no chance at the nomination, I switched my loyalties to Hillary Clinton without a single qualm.

Not everyone was so pragmatic. I haven't forgotten the searing bitterness among die-hard Bernie supporters, and their vicious snarking against Hillary Clinton.

A highly-visible soap-box can be very effective for swaying voters. That's why the people who possess those soap-boxes use them so enthusiastically. SS knew what she was doing.

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
26. Thank you for your honest post.
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 05:13 PM
Oct 2018

"A highly-visible soap-box can be very effective for swaying voters. That's why the people who possess those soap-boxes use them so enthusiastically.
SS knew what she was doing."

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. So you never heard of television. Sarandon bashing our candidate on the national news fucking
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 05:33 PM
Oct 2018

matters.

Forget how people voted today, had Hillary won the EC (all that matters), there would be no Gorsuch or Kavanaugh to vote for or against.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
36. Matters? Possibly, but not to the degree asserted here that Sarandon single-handedly swung the vote
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 05:41 PM
Oct 2018

Frankly, all that matters is tomorrows vote and last I checked we have a Democrat voting for a rapist. Blame Sarandon if you want for Manchin's vote but that just absolves him of his direct role in placing Kavanaugh in the Supreme Court for a lifetime appointment. Not Sarandon. Manchin.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
39. If 13% of her Twitter followers are from Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin...
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 05:58 PM
Oct 2018

and they all opted out of voting for Clinton thanks to Sarandon's false-equivalence, then yes, she cost Clinton the election.

It's unlikely, of course, but, combined with all of the other nefarious and idiotic influences on the easily duped, she was at least a factor. She certainly didn't help.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
41. "She certainly didn't help"
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 06:20 PM
Oct 2018

On this we agree. Sarandon did no favors to the progressive movement during the 2016 election and with her continued actions. Just don't agree with placing this all on her feet. I understand the anger though.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
47. Seems irrational to pretend that blaming one person is a defacto denial of blame for any other.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 03:10 PM
Oct 2018

In fact, doing so is a logical fallacy. Given that, I don't see anyone placing all blame at her feet.

If you allow your sampling to broaden beyond one post, you'll see plenty other posts blaming many single and collective people and organizations; and these as well are not assigning blame en toto.

George II

(67,782 posts)
59. She only needed to sway about 77,000 voters to get those two Supreme Court nominations of....
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:51 PM
Oct 2018

....Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.

Do you really think Hillary Clinton would have nominated either of them or someone as conservative as them?

Cha

(297,323 posts)
67. NO, Sarandon has a BIG LYING MOUTH.. & she sucked in too many gullibles..
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 11:27 PM
Oct 2018


Susan Sarandon: Clinton ‘more dangerous’ than Trump

snip//

Actress Susan Sarandon says Hillary Clinton's
foreign policy makes her a greater national security risk than Donald Trump, adding that it's "inevitable" the White House hopeful will be indicted.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282143-susan-sarandon-clinton-more-dangerous-than-trump

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
29. Nor would there have been a vote on gang-rapist KKKavanaugh if we had put VP Sanders
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 05:23 PM
Oct 2018

on the ticket... would have won in a landslide!

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
48. Do you believe that Sanders would have accepted the VP nomination if it was offered to him?
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 03:32 PM
Oct 2018

Bernie's immediate plans after the convention were to write a book instead of being on the campaign trail.

Having Sanders on the Democratic ticket would have been a bonus for the GOP as they would have replayed clips of Sanders criticizing Clinton. Clinton was wise to avoid that scenario.

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
52. An amusing notion that I would debate in another forum.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:07 PM
Oct 2018

However, since a discussion of that nature has the potential of drawing a hide I'll move along.

Would the affinity to Bernie have outweighed the bitterness to Hillary for the Bernie-or-bust followers? I don't have an account on JPR so I'll never get to ask the people who would have made that decision.

George II

(67,782 posts)
61. Can you demonstrate how, please? Remember, the convention wrapped up on July 28....
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:57 PM
Oct 2018

...and he didn't hit the campaign trail until Labor Day weekend, five weeks later.

George II

(67,782 posts)
60. "VP Sanders"? I thought he was a Senator.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:53 PM
Oct 2018

BTW, based on his demeanor at the Convention, it's highly doubtful that he would have accepted anyway.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
40. Each to our own, but my personal view of Sarandon, Stein, and those other so-called progressives who
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 06:02 PM
Oct 2018

refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016, and encourage the naïve and others to follow suit is to not even acknowledge their f**king worthless existence.

By ignoring them it means their views, opinions, self-identified purpose is meaningless, and they will fade soon enough into the dustbin of their worthless lives where they will soon enough be forgotten


JHan

(10,173 posts)
55. Losing healthcare coverage is what revolutions are like apparently.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:12 PM
Oct 2018

losing civil rights is when we know the revolution is really heating up. Paradise is coming any day now.

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
51. She's an idiot.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:00 PM
Oct 2018

I was a Bernie guy but went all in for Clinton when she clinched the nomination. Any Sanders supporter who didn’t vote for Hillary deserves whatever comes to them.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
58. The typical voter or non voter has no clue what Sarandons politics are and
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:44 PM
Oct 2018

she had zero impact on who they did or did note vote for.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
63. Susan Sarandon was a RF in the 2016 Rigged in "election"
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 11:10 PM
Oct 2018

and will continue to RF in 2020.. She and jill stein sucked in a lot of people with their LIES about Hillary.



Susan Sarandon: Clinton ‘more dangerous’ than Trump

snip//

Actress Susan Sarandon says Hillary Clinton's
foreign policy makes her a greater national security risk than Donald Trump, adding that it's "inevitable" the White House hopeful will be indicted.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282143-susan-sarandon-clinton-more-dangerous-than-trump

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