To everybody defending Joe Manchin: Remember 2009?

[wellst0nev0ter]

You know, back when we had a supermajority?

Unfortunately, that "majority" included a ratfucker named Joe Lieberman that prevented us from pushing forward a truly progressive agenda, and we got our asses handed to us in the midterm.

So my message to you is STOP defending republican-lite and stop rewarding bad behavior. It's not worth it, and it will NEVER be worth it.

[Kaleva]

1. Yea, it really worked well for us when we later lost the House and Senate.

[Fred Sanders]

3. I remember. No change. Still support a Democrat U.S. Senator in West Virginia.

[Adrahil]

4. The choice is between

Manchin and a Republican, not between Manchin and a better Democrat.

[pintobean]

5. Throwing the "impure" under the bus

is why we're in the minority.

[wellst0nev0ter]

7. And "big tent" still put us in the minority

because we're too scared to be progressive and right.

[Kaleva]

12. Baloney. Ditching the blue dog Dems made us a minority.

[bearsfootball516]

8. Would you rather have Manchin, voting with Trump 60 percent of the time

Or Morrisey, voting with Trump 100 percent of the time?

[wellst0nev0ter]

9. It'd be like having McCain

rest his soul.

[bearsfootball516]

10. It's the unfortunate reality of representing West Virginia, an extremely red state

You're not going to win as a Democrat unless you're a blue dog. I'd rather have than then some Republican who's voting with Trump every single time.

[OilemFirchen]

11. Leiberman wasn't a Democrat in 2009.

Nonetheless, and despite everything you think you know about him, he had been a fairly reliable liberal Senator. He certainly had nothing to do with the 2010 midterms except, perhaps, to have voted for the ACA, which was the rallying call for Republicans to storm the Congress.

Your OP, along with your own responses to it, are ill-contrived and utterly useless.

[Demsrule86]

14. And a Republican would have been more helpful?

In the end, Lieberman voted for healthcare which saved millions of lives. You will never have a majority in the Senate without conservadems.

[Raven123]

15. It's why we need enough Dems to buffer the Manchins

Remember the hand wringing over the ACA when Nelson was the Dem Senator from Nebraska?