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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/battle-over-accusations-goes-kavanaugh-nomination-advances-n917136(snip)
Two former Yale classmates say they have made several attempts to share text messages raising questions about whether Kavanaugh tried to squash the New Yorker story that made Ramirez's accusations public and say the FBI did not respond to their calls and written submissions to its web portal.
The text messages involve one potential eyewitness to the incident and the wife of another potential eyewitness.
The texts are a conversation between Kathy Charlton and a mutual friend of Kavanaugh's who, NBC has confirmed, was identified to the FBI by Ramirez as an eyewitness to the incident. NBC News has received no response to multiple attempts to reach the alleged eyewitness for comment.
The story detailing Ramirezs accusation was published in The New Yorker on Sept. 23. Charlton told NBC News that, in a phone conversation three days earlier, the former classmate told her Kavanaugh had called him and advised him not to say anything "bad" if the press were to call.
Then on September 21, according to the texts, that same person sent Charlton a text accusing her of disclosing their conversation to a reporter. Hellllllooooo. Dont F****** TELL PEOPLE BRETT GOT IN TOUCH WITH ME!!! I TOLD YOU AT THE TIME THAT WAS IN CONFIDENCE!!!
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irresistable
(989 posts)Someone very powerful has to make a big deal about this. Someone who cannot be denied. Does such a person exist?
ooky
(8,924 posts)That is what our government has become.
irresistable
(989 posts)ooky
(8,924 posts)won't go vote, again. We need to prove them wrong this time.
irresistable
(989 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)triron
(22,007 posts)I am outraged.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)triron
(22,007 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)If the new batch of politicians who get into office later want to do something, they can look into all this. Some think they will do that. But going on the past, they won't. It distracts from the agenda and the wish to move forward. It's very contentious, this sort of thing. New politicians in a new year generally don't start things up like that. Just like there was no review of the criminals who caused the Great Recession. No one of consequence went to jail.
I hope they do, though. It's that important.
ZZenith
(4,124 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)triron
(22,007 posts)triron
(22,007 posts)Hotler
(11,425 posts)llmart
(15,540 posts)she already knows what a jerk he is but has convinced herself it's worth it to stay with him. I hope her life is miserable as hell.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)and three of them had video of it, they would still approve him. They just don't give a fuck what anyone thinks anymore.
They haven't even played the Roe v Wade "What about the tens of millions of babies that have been murdered" card yet.
dchill
(38,505 posts)SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)Nt
Samspadesnark
(75 posts)the dems chose the wrong hill to die on. Having gotten away with this, the patriarchy will now continue at accelerated speed and increased force. The dem senators should have focused on Kavanaugh's dodgy finances, provable lies, and breaches of the Judicial Code of Conduct, and had the hard, cold evidence at each hearing (showing the documents to Kavanaugh as they questioned him) so that it would have proven to be irrefutable. They were warned about this by many people, and chose the wrong path.
The media loves cat fights, and would love for yet another 'election' to be a cliff-hanger provided the one percent can once again prevail in the end. We really need to be careful about choosing our strategies in the future: we are fighting a ruling class with untold billions at their disposal. 'She said, he said' rings true for so many of us (apparently one-third of all women have been raped), and I do believe Kavanaugh did what he was accused of doing and that there was substantial corroborating evidence to suggest or prove it. But given the social proclivities and ingrained male cultural dominance, we should have chosen a fight that Kavanaugh and the entrenched powers could not have win.
When an appellate judge can be shown to be lying multiple times about his finances in his sworn application, and about several other important things (his leaking of grand jury testimony, for example a serious no-no for any officier of the court), and when he also behaves in other ways that violate his own required judicial standards of conduct (promoting himself, having backers as though he were a political candidate, showing clear bias, treating others in ways that, if the shoe were on the other foot, the person would have been thrown out of his courtroom and/or sanctioned, etc), it becomes much more difficult for him to gain media sympathy or claim victim status.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)... I can't believe that they were not an issue, so far...
BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)Maryland has no statute of limitations, what about this victim too?
lancelyons
(988 posts)We play accusation and and tattle tell. They play power ball to win.
Its a shame really but another example of a butter knife.
triron
(22,007 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)and republicans think they are special, not like ordinary Americans who have morals, ethics, and respect for the law.