What really stings is Al Franken wouldn't have hesitated to stick the knife in and twist it

[Snake Plissken]

He's wouldn't have fell for that crying little boy act that Kavanaugh pulled on Thursday, he would have forced Kavanaugh to describe in detail his imaginary beer drinking games and said ...

So if Someone were to tell me the Devil's triangle refers to a three-way sexual encounter with two men and a women, would they be lying?

Or if someone were to tell me that "FFFFF" means ..."Find em french em finger em fuck em forget em." would they be lying?



He would have force Kavanaugh to lose it.

[bigtree]

1. EVERY Democrat but ONE is voting against Kavanaugh

...whipping up angst and anger over what Franken might have said is a waste of energy.

Get it in your head that these republicans have zero care about what you want. That's not going to change with a forceful statement in a hearing. The only response that will make a difference in what republicans do is our votes. They are drunk with power.

[Snake Plissken]

4. I don't give a shit in the slightest what a Republicans care about, not ever remotely

I'm just stating my observations,

Kavanaugh was close to snapping and every time several times and every time they backed off when he started to have a tantrum, they shouldn't have allowed him to dictate any part of that hearing.

[oberliner]

2. Kavanaugh did lose it

It didn't matter (to Republicans).

[Qutzupalotl]

7. You're right, but he would have lost it during Al's questioning

and I think we would have gotten better follow-up questions. Plus it would have been funny and gone viral.

[oberliner]

8. True

Agreed on all points.

That being said, we'd still be in the same place with the votes, unfortunately.

[Qutzupalotl]

9. One possibilitiy

is Al would have embarrassed him in the moment, making the Senators laugh at him, possibly evenmake him withdraw. We were harping on the sexual harrassment, but not enough emphasis on the stolen documents or payment of gambling debts, IMO. Al was an out-of-the-box thinker and I miss him now.

[Beartracks]

10. Ironically, tragically, we lost Al over FAR LESS CONCRETE allegations, and Republicans...

... like Collins and Murkowski helped lay the track for his railroading, I'm pretty sure.

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[LisaL]

11. You should look at what Collins has said about allegations against Franken.

She had no problems at all believing allegations against him.

"While Collins is hesitant to believe the woman accusing Kavanaugh of pinning her down on a bed and attempting to remove her clothes when she was 15 years old, she had no qualms with immediately believing the allegations of sexual harassment against Franken to be true."

https://thinkprogress.org/susan-collins-christine-blasey-ford-brett-kavanaugh-allegations-c0ea3ccae443/

[wellst0nev0ter]

3. This Susan Murkowski quote:

"The presumption of innocence and fairness do bear on my thinking and I cannot abandon them."

Guess that was in short supply when it was Franken, eh?

[Snake Plissken]

5. It was non-existent

[Qutzupalotl]

6. He could think on his feet.

We have a few lawyers who can do that, and a professor, but we need some former comedians to call out bullshit. They just see things a little differently. Al was also brilliant and well-informed.

[Snake Plissken]

13. The one thing that Al franken never did was ...

Ask a question he didn't already know the answer to.

He was always the most prepared person in he room, that is precisely why he was targeted by Bannon.

[JimGinPA]

12. The Only Hint Of A Silver Lining...

Is that he has made even more obvious the hypocrisy of the other side.

[Snake Plissken]

16. But think about it, that is one of the mistakes we keep making over and over

We allow these conservative Christian con men to pretend they actually care about morality with their "thoughts and prayers" bullshit, when in reality they are straight up human sewage and very proud to be straight up human sewage, the only time they find a sense of morality is when Bill Clinton gets a blowjob, or Al Franken is seen in a comedy sketch simulating the groping of a woman's breasts

We need to stop allowing them to even try pretending that they are anything but lowlifes, and we need to stop acting as if further proof of it is needed.

[JimGinPA]

17. No Argument Here

[appal_jack]

18. Exactly, Snake! k&r, nt.

[Trumpocalypse]

15. Franken wouldn't have had any credibility

Not with the accusations hanging over his head. While the accusations against Franken were BS, he wouldn’t have been able to go after Kavanaugh.

[appal_jack]

19. I disagree.

Franken could have handled it with aplomb. I could see him saying, "Now Judge Kavanaugh, as you may recall, I was nearly driven from my duly elected Senate seat due to a jocular gesture placing my hands about 12" from a woman's breasts. Did you actually touch Dr. Ford's breasts without her consent?" And so on...

-app

[Trumpocalypse]

20. And Kavanaugh would have just

thrown the Franken accusations back in his face.

[appal_jack]

21. And then, lawdy, K-nah just might get confirmed!

Somehow, I think that Franken could have handled himself OK in that context.

What he couldn't handle was a coordinated smear with his close colleagues taking the lead.

-app

[Trumpocalypse]

22. Dream on

Unfair and unjust as it is, Franken wouldn’t have any credibility in that context.

[SharonClark]

23. How do you know what Franken couldn't handle?

He chose to resign. For whatever reason he chose to resign. He chose not to stand up and defend himself. I don't know why and neither do you.

Many Franken acolytes assume he resigned because???? His feelings were hurt? Really? A politician as skilled as Franken couldn't handle the heat? Couldn't defend himself? Couldn't stick a knife in his accusers and twist it?

I miss Franken's wit and tenacity as a Senator but he let a lot of people down by resigning and trying to blame his resignation on anyone other than Franken himself is being dishonest.