Joe Manchin's Legacy....

[LovingA2andMI]

Is voting for a Lying Man Who Sexually Assaulted Women in his Past To The Supreme Court (and hereby placing Roe v. Wade in jeopardy) and Epipen's costing Thousands of Dollars ---> until his Daughter was called out on it.

That's Joe Manchin's Legacy. Time to pick up his seat ---> ELSEWHERE.

[Trust Buster]

1. I agree. If one does not have the courage to stand by democratic principles,

What does that say ?

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

2. Respectfully...

...if you haven't tried to already, try to think of the political elements involved with JM voting for Kav. He is a DEM in the reddest state (according to Presidential results) in the Union. Galvanizing the opposition in that state would have been a political blunder.

Even before this vote, Manch was on record almost half of the time voting for the President anyway. Honestly and sadly, I think Manch might be the best DEMS can do unless we can field a dynamic candidate. I don't see one in WV.

My vote for the foreseeable future: Blue No Matter Who.

[LovingA2andMI]

3. Better Than That...

Target another Republican Seat, Find A Candidate, Put Money Behind That Candidate, They Get Elected and They Stand With The BLUE LINE on Critical Votes.

That's the strategy to deal with Manchin's. As for what happens to him....Oh Well.

[mopinko]

4. except that he is ahead by double digits.

he had the latitude, he just didnt want to use it.
he figures it's a gimme, since his vote didnt matter.
gutless

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

5. I can't argue...

...with the "gutless" label. The "gutless" and "cowardice" are certainly no strangers to politics. They've often been on our side.

This is politics at its worst.

[LovingA2andMI]

6. And What Are The Chances....

With This Vote, He Will Pull A Lieberman after January 2019. Probably pretty high.

[Bettie]

12. I suspect he is the red wall for McConnell

and that if Democrats get the Senate, he will flip parties to give it back to the Republicans.

[Demsrule86]

15. I doubt it.

He could have done that now and had a pretty good chance at reelection.

[DAMANgoldberg]

8. WV-3

Assuming that Richard Ojeda gets elected (not automatic) and stays for 3 terms, there could be your answer. Otherwise, Manchin is the best we can get in WV now.

[Maraya1969]

9. Do you see Doug Jones voting with the r's? He won a very close race in a very red district

So have other people. If Manchin wants to support r's then he should be one.

I don't see any R's voting with the Dems because they are in a blue district.

I bet Beto O'Rourke won't be voting with R's if he wins.

It's a bunch of bullshit. The problems with Kavanaugh are much bigger than just sexual assault. His temperament, lying, partisan politics, conspiracy beliefs, gambling, drinking, ...... We've heard week's worth of bad shit about him. Why should anyone vote for this man?

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

10. Hey...

...hadn't thought of it like that, especially the point involving Dough Jones.

Good point. Something for me to think about.

[JI7]

11. Doug Jones Base is Black Voters. they make up a significant minority in the state . he gets pretty

much all of their support.

west virginia is mostly white and most of them support Trump.

jones and manchin's base are pretty much opposite .

[Demsrule86]

14. It will be a miracle if we manage to get Doug Jones reelected...I pray that we do,

but it will be very tough.

[Demsrule86]

16. He could give us a majority so I agree with you and as for his votes, he voted with us

when it counted. He often votes GOP when they have the votes...it amazes me that people don't get that.

[LiberalFighter]

7. Need to focus on other states

[Demsrule86]

13. Oh please spare me...he was not the deciding vote...and there was no point

in him falling on his sword when the GOP had the votes. We will never get the kind of Democrat you want in West Virginia...and we need warm bodies to take a majority in the Senate without which we are powerless...this sort of thinking is why we are in the minority. You will never have a majority without moderates or conservadems. That is a fact. I want to win and get some of our agenda through...instead of having to play defense.