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jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:09 PM Oct 2018

I think Trump done screwed up

If he was going to nominate someone as bad as Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, he really should have held onto the nomination until after the midterms. His sales pitch could have been on the order of "I have a nominee who's going to be the greatest Supreme Court justice in history! Unless we hold both houses of Congress* we'll never see this justice take this justice's rightful place in history! If you want to seat this fine justice, be sure to vote early and vote often for all the Republicans you can!" Deplorables, Semi-Deplorables, Double-Deplorables and the Tiki Torch Brigade would flock to the polls to support their lord and savior Trump.

Now that Trump has his SC justice, he has two problems: there is a very high probability that Republican voters will become complacent, and there's an even higher probability the people who do not like Trump, do not like Republicans and especially do not like the fact George W. Bush With A Law Degree is now on the Supreme Court are going to turn out at the polls in record numbers.

I see the beginning of a very painful end for our ersatz leader and all his minions.

* I know as well as you the Senate is the body that signs off on Supreme Court nominees, and the House has nothing to do with it. But his civics-stunted base does not. If Trump says he needs the House to get his nominees confirmed, they'll believe it.

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I think Trump done screwed up (Original Post) jmowreader Oct 2018 OP
Nice thinking, but customerserviceguy Oct 2018 #1
Two things would have motivated them jmowreader Oct 2018 #2

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
1. Nice thinking, but
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:08 AM
Oct 2018

Trump didn't save Kavanaugh until the midterms, and he still won. In the process, he may have seriously motivated his base. We'll see how that works out for him in a few weeks.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
2. Two things would have motivated them
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:49 AM
Oct 2018

The first one is what I described: Trump saving Kavanaugh until after the election, and telling his base they had to vote early and often to get him in (without telling the world exactly who he picked, which could have motivated the Left to vote in hopes of keeping him out)

The second is if Kavanaugh wouldn't have been confirmed. This would have driven them to the polls to vote out the people who kept Trump from getting his pony.

What the Right wants now is Obergefell and Roe overturned, and maybe a few others they don't really talk about like Lawrence v. Texas (which legalized same-sex relations), Loving v Virginia (which legalized interracial marriage), Griswold v Connecticut (which legalized contraception) and, if they're REALLY feeling saucy today, maybe Shapiro v Thompson (which struck down a Connecticut law that denied welfare benefits to anyone who hadn't lived in Connecticut for a full year before applying for assistance). What they don't realize is the Supreme Court can't just wake up one day and say to itself, "we really hate that ruling in Griswold, it's gone, states can ban birth control to anyone who isn't married now." Someone has to pass a law, then it has to take effect, then someone has to violate that law, then the violators have to lose a number of court cases and THEN it can be taken before the Supreme Court. There's no way the Supreme Court could possibly overturn even one of those cases before the 2020 election. And I don't think the Hard Right is that patient.

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