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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:45 PM Oct 2018

Trump owes $50 million *to his own Delaware corporation* w/ address in Trump Tower in NYC

Weird. Trump owes $50 million to a Delaware corporation with almost no paper trail called Chicago Unit Acquisition, who's address is Trump Tower in NYC.


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Trump owes $50 million *to his own Delaware corporation* w/ address in Trump Tower in NYC (Original Post) MelissaB Oct 2018 OP
***Details*** MelissaB Oct 2018 #1
Once again PatSeg Oct 2018 #5
"Follow the money." n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2018 #2
How do you spell "Money Laundering" again? MelissaB Oct 2018 #3
Always scheming. BeckyDem Oct 2018 #4
The FBI will be right on it. Scruffy1 Oct 2018 #6
Tax evasion, plain and simple HopeAgain Oct 2018 #7
But an LLC is a passthrough entity fescuerescue Oct 2018 #8
LLC's are not necessarily treated as pass through entities HopeAgain Oct 2018 #11
... Scurrilous Oct 2018 #9
Linked to Russian companies indicted by Mueller?? Roland99 Oct 2018 #10
Incorporated not long after the last Trump parent's estate was settled. salin Oct 2018 #12

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
1. ***Details***
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:46 PM
Oct 2018

NEW: This story touches on one of the biggest mysteries in @realDonaldTrump's finances -- which only gets more mysterious, the more i dig into it. The mystery is called "Chicago Unit Acquisition, LLC" 1/




Nobody outside Trump Org. had heard of Chicago Unit Acquisition LLC until @realDonaldTrump submitted his financial disclosures as a candidate. They showed he owed more than $50M to an entity with that name. 2/

That's a big loan, even for a real-estate developer like @realDonaldTrump. So what is this entity that the president owes more than $50M? 3/

Well, it's not a bank. Public records in Delaware (where it's registered) don't list any other loans it's made. It has a pretty thin paper trail, but govt. docs show the company's headquarters is 725 Fifth Avenue, NYC. 4/

...Which is Trump Tower. 5/

In fact, Chicago Unit Acquisition is owned by @realDonaldTrump and managed (now) by Eric Trump. Which means Donald Trump owes more than $50 Million to...himself. Why?6/

As far as I know, @realDonaldTrump has only talked about this loan once, to the @nytimes in 2016. He said it was a loan on his Chicago tower, which he bought back from the lenders. “I have the mortgage. That is all there is. Very simple. I am the bank.”7/

But which loan is he talking about? We checked both of the publicly listed loans on the Chicago tower – a $640M loan from Deutsche Bank, and a $130M “mezzanine loan” from other lenders. And...8/

...And neither one appears to have been sold, to @realDonaldTrump or anyone. Both, in fact, appear to have been paid off and cancelled in 2012. 9/

So...I know more about this debt than I used to. But I still don't understand it. If *you* know something about this loan, or about why @RealDonaldtrump would see an advantage in owing himself $ (as opposed to just paying off the loan)...I'm at Fahrenthold@washpost.com END/

Scruffy1

(3,257 posts)
6. The FBI will be right on it.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 05:06 PM
Oct 2018

That is as soon as their done with their witch hunts on leftist and and sacary foreigners.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
7. Tax evasion, plain and simple
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 05:06 PM
Oct 2018

You don't pay income taxes on a loan. He's trying to shelter 50M in income, no doubt...

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
8. But an LLC is a passthrough entity
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 06:57 PM
Oct 2018

So that $50m would be represented in the K1s which flow into the 1040. Just as a loan isn't income on the 1040, a loan isn't an expense to the LLC either.

If he faults on it, then it becomes ordinary income.

Sure would be nice to see his 1040.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
11. LLC's are not necessarily treated as pass through entities
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 08:06 AM
Oct 2018

That is an election that is made when the Tax ID is applied for. As long as it is a recourse liability it can probably stay on the books as a loan. If it is never paid off, then yes it will eventually be shown as income. But they may have been trying to defer the taxes through this scheme. People avoid taxes by moving money around in all kinds of ways, for some it is a game of cat and mouse with the IRS.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
10. Linked to Russian companies indicted by Mueller??
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 07:11 AM
Oct 2018
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11256396


overit
@Stephaniefishm4
15th FLOOR was the damn campaign headquarters.... I've tried to show this before

salin

(48,955 posts)
12. Incorporated not long after the last Trump parent's estate was settled.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 09:31 AM
Oct 2018

I am wondering if this is the Donald's vehicle to shelter $$ for his kids ala the shelter Fred Sr. used.

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