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SKKY

(11,807 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 08:20 AM Oct 2018

Is it just me, our could Obama, Biden, Harris, Bernie, or basically anyone else...

Last edited Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:23 PM - Edit history (1)

...with a bit of political capital do more to help candidates like Beto, Rosen, Nelson, or Bredesen make up ground in their respective races. There should be a full press to help push these candidates across the line and all I'm really hearing from "leadership" is crickets.


On edit: Had Heller on here when I meant, obviously, Rosen.

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Is it just me, our could Obama, Biden, Harris, Bernie, or basically anyone else... (Original Post) SKKY Oct 2018 OP
Each campaign is different. Some want national help and some don't. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #1
I've been volunteering for campaigns for decades. Candidates want endorsements and candidates Ninga Oct 2018 #4
I think it could help Rosen and Nelson. Texas and Tennessee on the other hand, I'm dubious. bearsfootball516 Oct 2018 #2
For Texas... In It to Win It Oct 2018 #3
Perfect, but at least someone, right? It seems like the Dems have resigned themselves to the fact.. SKKY Oct 2018 #5
It's not impossible In It to Win It Oct 2018 #8
Sanders is campaigning in nine states for Dem candidates. They are Nanjeanne Oct 2018 #6
Thats Bernie! Doing the heavy lifting once again. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #9
Has he endorsed any of the candidates mentioned in the op? N/T WeekiWater Oct 2018 #13
pretty sure they don't want his endorsement JI7 Oct 2018 #17
Since he is campaigning for Rosen I would say yes. Since Bredesen said he woukd Nanjeanne Oct 2018 #37
So one out of four, possibly. WeekiWater Oct 2018 #38
Don't know what your point is. He is appearing with Rosen on the campaign trail. And Nanjeanne Oct 2018 #39
haha HBS... took the EXACT words out of my mouth!! Bernie ALWAYS doin the heavy liftin!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #27
It's just you mcar Oct 2018 #7
Beto didn't want an Obama endorsement hexola Oct 2018 #10
Indeed. Beto was left off both lists of Obama endorsements. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2018 #28
Oh, good Lord. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #11
Don't you "Oh, good Lord" me Missy! SKKY Oct 2018 #15
... NurseJackie Oct 2018 #21
Oh, I don't think they're lazy... SKKY Oct 2018 #25
Never hafta worry about Bernie gettin lazy... he never gets tired of workin his azz off... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #29
I get exhausted just listening to the man speak... SKKY Oct 2018 #31
It's a gift! Bernie is like the Energizer Bunny...other politicians his age, or even younger... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #32
I'm not sure Sanders would be willing to endorse Nelson over Scott. WeekiWater Oct 2018 #12
He hasn't, which makes me wonder.... SKKY Oct 2018 #14
Heller is a republican. and no, they can't help Beto and Bredesen JI7 Oct 2018 #16
Yea, my bad.... SKKY Oct 2018 #19
O'Rourke's in an odd position. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #18
My point exactly... SKKY Oct 2018 #20
No. Not at all. Outside help would potentially hurt him. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #23
Fair enough... SKKY Oct 2018 #26
You mean a candidate is not supposed to call the other candidate's voters names? Go figure. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #22
I don't know if one is supposed to or not. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #24
Since when does cowtowin' to conservatives win elections for Democrats? I recommend kickin em InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #30
I know in Missouri xmas74 Oct 2018 #33
How fascinating that, of the people you mentioned in your tiitle, only Senator Sanders is a mononym. OilemFirchen Oct 2018 #34
I'm not sure if you're serious, or making fun of me.... SKKY Oct 2018 #35
When you hear Barack, who do you think of? OilemFirchen Oct 2018 #36

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
4. I've been volunteering for campaigns for decades. Candidates want endorsements and candidates
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 08:39 AM
Oct 2018

want anyone and everyone who is willing to speak in support. No doubt. A majority.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
2. I think it could help Rosen and Nelson. Texas and Tennessee on the other hand, I'm dubious.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 08:29 AM
Oct 2018

Those are still really red states. I've been saying from the beginning that I expect Beto and Bredesen to do much better than Democrats typically do in Texas and Tennessee Senate races, but I also don't expect the final tallies to be close. Hope I'm wrong though.

In It to Win It

(8,252 posts)
3. For Texas...
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 08:38 AM
Oct 2018

I think someone from Texas like Wendy Davis, unless she’s given up campaigning for people, would be a better help than Obama or Harris or anyone else.

SKKY

(11,807 posts)
5. Perfect, but at least someone, right? It seems like the Dems have resigned themselves to the fact..
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 08:52 AM
Oct 2018

...that the Senate is out of reach. And it may be now, but I don't think it was 4 weeks, or even 2 weeks ago.

In It to Win It

(8,252 posts)
8. It's not impossible
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 11:58 AM
Oct 2018

The fact that we even have a chance at the senate is a miracle. Our number one priority is the House because we know for sure we can take it. The map is tough for us but it is possible.

Nanjeanne

(4,960 posts)
6. Sanders is campaigning in nine states for Dem candidates. They are
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 08:54 AM
Oct 2018

Indiana for Liz Watson, who is trying to unseat Republican Rep. Trey Hollingsworth, and ends Oakland, California, with a rally for Rep. Barbara Lee,
Iowa -- for J.D. Scholten, who is challenging GOP Rep. Steve King
Michigan to campaign for Democratic gubernatorial nominee Gretchen Whitmer i
Wisconsin for a rally with Sen. Tammy Baldwin and other Badger State Democrats in Milwaukee,

His Western swing begins with a pair of events with progressive favorite David Garcia, who is challenging Arizona Republican Gov. Doug Ducey.
Colorado, for Rep. Jared Polis, who is favored to become the first openly gay man elected governor in US history.
In Nevada, Sanders will hit Reno and Las Vegas to support Rep. Jacky Rosen in her race to unseat Republican Sen. Dean Heller.

Before Sanders wraps his nationwide swing in California with Lee up in Oakland, he will rally down in San Diego with House candidates Mike Levin, who is vying to take over retiring GOP Rep. Darrell Issa's seat, and Ammar Campa-Najjar, whose bid to flip the district held by Rep. Duncan Hunter

Nanjeanne

(4,960 posts)
37. Since he is campaigning for Rosen I would say yes. Since Bredesen said he woukd
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:26 AM
Oct 2018

vote for Kavanaugh I would guess it wouldn’t help him to have Sanders endorse him. Nelson in Fl it might not be beneficial. He has endorsed others in FL though. Beto is a puzzlement as his platform is Bernie’s and his fundraising machine is too.

Nanjeanne

(4,960 posts)
39. Don't know what your point is. He is appearing with Rosen on the campaign trail. And
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 11:09 AM
Oct 2018

with other Dem candidates like Tammy Baldwin and Barbara Lee and has endorsed candidates like Andrew Gilliam and Stacey Abrams and If he isn’t going to be of value to Beto (as Obama appears not to be as well) then isn’t it good he isn’t endorsing? Why would someone who would vote for Kavanaugh and is running in TN want his endorsement?

Oh wait ... I answered my own question so you don’t have to. Your point is Bernie bad man. Got it.

SKKY

(11,807 posts)
15. Don't you "Oh, good Lord" me Missy!
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:16 PM
Oct 2018

Seriously, am I off base by asking this? It just seems to me that, given a little bit more involvement by some Dem "heavy hitters", we could have done something in the Senate.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. ...
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:28 PM
Oct 2018
Don't you "Oh, good Lord" me Missy!


I think it's a mistake to continually accuse or suggest that our Democratic leaders are lazy, or negligent, or that they don't care.

SKKY

(11,807 posts)
25. Oh, I don't think they're lazy...
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:34 PM
Oct 2018

...I just don't understand why they aren't getting more involved. That's all.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
29. Never hafta worry about Bernie gettin lazy... he never gets tired of workin his azz off...
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:43 PM
Oct 2018

setting a good example to help Democrats get elected.

SKKY

(11,807 posts)
31. I get exhausted just listening to the man speak...
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 04:07 PM
Oct 2018

...kinda like my 5 year-old. Where do they get their energy from?

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
32. It's a gift! Bernie is like the Energizer Bunny...other politicians his age, or even younger...
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 06:23 PM
Oct 2018

can't keep pace with him.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
12. I'm not sure Sanders would be willing to endorse Nelson over Scott.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:13 PM
Oct 2018

Or O'Rourke over Cruz for that matter.

Has sanders even made and endorsement in the races you mention?

SKKY

(11,807 posts)
14. He hasn't, which makes me wonder....
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:14 PM
Oct 2018

...his he not "Bernie" enough for him? I just don't get the silence, but as some have pointed out, perhaps I'm missing the finer minutia of the local politics of each individual race.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. O'Rourke's in an odd position.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:23 PM
Oct 2018

He's doing good. Far better than anyone would have given credit for ten months ago. Part of the reason for his better-than-the-average-dem-in-TX is that he's NOT talking down to conservative voters. At all.

Case in point-- his advertising campaign says absolutely nothing negative about conservatives, his opponent, or the conservative movement-- and despite the DCCC ads running here which are negative, they are absent his endorsement.

In fact, his messaging mechanism is to speak to TX as a whole rather than dividing us into numerous constituencies and demographics, and then tailoring a message to each.

Bringing anyone (anyone) in from outside TX could easily upset this balance he has. Bringing in Obama or Clinton could easily, at this point, cost him far more votes than they would add.

I can't address the other states and other candidates, but in O'Rourke's case, I think he's doing as good as he can with or without more help.

SKKY

(11,807 posts)
20. My point exactly...
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:27 PM
Oct 2018

...I genuinely think a bit more help could push him over the line. And even if we don't get the majority in the senate, what kind of message would it send to flip Texas??

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. No. Not at all. Outside help would potentially hurt him.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:29 PM
Oct 2018

Would most likely hurt him.

The endorsements from the Obama's, the Clinton's, the Sander's, etc. would hurt his chances with TX voters more than help him.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. I don't know if one is supposed to or not.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:33 PM
Oct 2018

I do know that in TX, talking down to, and dismissing conservative votes would most likely reduce his numbers.

I can't address how purple or blue states do their thing... but it would be absurd for them to take the same tacking O'Rourke is, as the routes are very different from here to there.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
30. Since when does cowtowin' to conservatives win elections for Democrats? I recommend kickin em
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:46 PM
Oct 2018

when they go low like Ted KKKruz, just as Eric Holder suggested... that's the way to win!!

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
33. I know in Missouri
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 06:31 PM
Oct 2018

It's probably best for McCaskill to receive as little on the ground campaign support from the big wigs as possible. The commercials already call her a "Pelosi Democrat", etc.

Each state is different. I'd suspect that O'Rourke would have a similar approach in that aspect.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
34. How fascinating that, of the people you mentioned in your tiitle, only Senator Sanders is a mononym.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:33 PM
Oct 2018

It's absolutely precious!

SKKY

(11,807 posts)
35. I'm not sure if you're serious, or making fun of me....
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:09 AM
Oct 2018

...I will just say that when I hear the name "Bernie", I immediately think of Bernie Sanders. And unfortunately, it works the other way as well. When I hear the name "Donald", I don't immediately think of Donald Duck, Donald Glover, or Donald Sutherland.

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