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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat is going on with Antifa in WA?
I know with our states becoming police states things are going to get bad but I dont want the left to be villianizes by their behavior. How are we approaching this topic?
KCDebbie
(664 posts)Of Antifa groups, ESPECIALLY if these members are masked during these activities.
It only takes a few masked Trumpers wearing t-shirts with BLM written on them and calling themselves Antifa to make arsonists and vandals and thugs out of real Antifa members.
Don't buy into the propaganda being peddled! Antifa are good people...
violetpastille
(1,483 posts)We have our share of Black Bloc
Those guys don't even vote. You live in a free state guys. Smoke some weed and try to meet a girl. Your moms want to protest Kavanagh.
I have no idea how much they get paid, but I can't see it being worth it. And they are NOT Anti Trump. They are not anti-fascist.
They just like to break stuff. Spoiled brats.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)It is a term made up by the right wing fascists. No one who is on the left uses that term.
David__77
(23,404 posts)It just isn't. There have long been groups whose platform included confrontation of racists and fascists, including depriving racists and fascists of a public forum through action. The antifa emblem that has been popularized is similar to that used by the German group Anti-Fascist Action during the early 1930s.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)You clearly haven't spent much time around them.
lancelyons
(988 posts)If they are trump supporters, then arrest them and get their names. It shouldnt be hard to find out if they are trump supporters.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)Are there Antifa groups in the State of Washington? I suppose you could Google that and let us know what is going on there.
David__77
(23,404 posts)WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)The right wants to make them out to be a sizable faction on the left when they are not even close.
I say that as a supporter of Antifa. Including those who wear face coverings(half of which are probably false flag operators).
rainy
(6,091 posts)incidents against the left as being violent so that when they get violent all the media will talk about is Antifa and the violence of the left.
https://www.westernjournal.com/antifa-shut-intersection-threaten/
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)RWNJs in Portland have LITERALLY KILLED PEOPLE and you're worrying about "the Left" being "villainized"?
News flash: the right has already made us villains. We hate America, we burn flags, we take a knee, we destroy the reputations of good men with false rape accusations, we murder babies. Remember?
I suggest you follow both WA and OR Antifas on Facebook and educate yourself.
rainy
(6,091 posts)to counter a fb post by a friend who was all up in arms about Antifa in WA. Heres what I answered him with:
The right hate groups are extremely violent. Antifa is crude and not something Id like to be associated with but they are fighting white supremacy violence which is actually responsible for murders and inciting hate and violence. White supremacy groups have grown in huge numbers since a black man was elected president. And more under Trump who they all consider their protector.
Antifa is a very small group and their only beef is with fascism. Have you noticed we are living in a police state? Only people fighting in the streets can save us from this corporate rule fascism we are heading in right now. The police dont mow down white supremists because then do not threaten the state but they are gearing up to fight protesters whom will be demonized to maintain the corrupt government and corporate control over all of us including you and I. Corporations own our government along wit the extremely wealthy elite. They keep us bickering and voting against our own best interest by way of two party tribalism. Pay attention. Money out of politics now, and we can talk about the destruction of the earth and wars for natural resources on another post.
rainy
(6,091 posts)We are nowhere near a police state. I know you have a passport, you can get on a plane to anywhere in the world tomorrow, and as long as its not somewhere like North Korea, no one even cares why. I drive around all day, every day with multiple firearms on my person. We can do whatever we want. Do you see white supremacists walking around everywhere? I dont. Only time Ive ever seen one was on tv. Ever think the media is blowing it out of proportion? Most republicans youll talk to are like me and my dad. We hate nazi scumbags just as much as anyone else. Ill kick teeth in a heartbeat. But you cant just call anyone who disagrees with you a nazi.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)They call themselves Proud Boys.
If you followed Antifa on FB, you'd know that they identify and track individual white supremacists.
Look up Josh Dukes and Elizabeth Hokoana. She's still walking around free. Tell me again how Antifa are the villains. It's RW BS.