I don't want to be discouraging, but they're going to try to steal it again

[garybeck]

Voter registration purges
Long lines in democratic areas
social media propaganda campaign
help from russia
voting machines are still hackable and owned by right wing companies



they say the definition of "insane" is when you keep trying the same thing, it doesn't work, and you just keep doing it.

folks, we have seen this before, going back at least to Bush.

i've seen enough polls at this point and I know people are PISSED.

if the dems don't take the house, i'm sorry, it was stolen. period.

does anyone think the refucklicans are just going to sit back and let it happen?

they have the ways and the means to mess with our election system in many ways.

If it is stolen again, what do we do this time? Just try again in 2 more years?



NOW BEFORE you FLAME me for discouraging people from voting, STOP.

EVERYONE SHOULD VOTE!
WAIT IN THOSE LONG LINES!
DO **EVERYTHING** YOU CAN!
MAKE SURE ALL YOUR FRIENDS ARE VOTING!
DRIVE YOUR GRANDPARENTS TO THE POLLS!
GO ONLINE AND GET INTO POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS!
MAKE SURE ALL YOUR FACEBOOK FRIENDS ARE VOTING!
CALL YOUR LOCAL DEM PARTY AND VOLUNTEER TO HELP!
MAKE PHONE CALLS!
DO ALL OF THAT!

there. i am not saying we shouldn't do all that.
what i'm saying is, we have done all that before.
my question is, what happens if we do all that again, and it appears clear that it was stolen again?

then what?

[irresistable]

1. you can only steal a close election, so...

let's make sure that it isn't close.....anywhere!

[garybeck]

3. i'm not sure i completely agree with your premise

if you attach from several angles, like purging voter rolls, social media crap, voting machines, .... you can have a major affect on the results.

[questionseverything]

13. we need candidates that will follow thru and do complete hand counted recounts

candidates that will take the states to court to examine the software of both the machines and the reporting sites

with the sc being all repub now it is a stretch to think that will work but I think its what we have left

voting in over whelming numbers does make it harder to steal

[LiberalArkie]

16. I do not agree at all with the premiss

[elleng]

2. They are already stealing them; they NEVER give up.

[garybeck]

5. exactly my point

my question is what do we do about it

[saidsimplesimon]

4. debbie downer redux?

NO, you stop spreading this negative poop and worry about tomorrow when tomorrow comes. Until then, the "what" is work to GOTV like your welfare depends on it.

[garybeck]

6. been there, done that

now is the time to raise awareness.

have a nice day

[Squinch]

19. That's ridiculous. This is a real problem. We know it is. Worry about tomorrow when

tomorrow comes is what put us here in the first place.

And the what is not only GOTV. The obvious answer is, if you are in one of those states where the Russians have been rummaging around in the voting system, you become your reps worst nightmare stalker until they tell you what they are going to do to protect your vote.

Putting your head in the sand is not a good idea.

[jodymarie aimee]

7. they have been stealing ours here in Wisconsin

for almost a decade...I have little hope the blue wave will hit here...Our Assembly is over 2/3 R, our Gov and Court corrupted. In 2016 they actually threw out early ballots. One reason I will never early vote again.

[garybeck]

8. here's an idea for you

make a flyer called "how to make sure your vote counts in Wisconsin"

[jodymarie aimee]

10. You seriously don't think we have done everything

possible....

[garybeck]

11. i don't know what you've done

i applaud you for everything you've done!

i have done a lot too, but i'm always trying to think of what more i can do. there is always more.

[jodymarie aimee]

12. what state are you in...

anybody not in WI or KS or SC is on a learning curve...you are seeing now what happens when Rs have total power...we have been in chains for a decade, you guys are just tipping your toes in with Trump...

[thegoose]

9. Stealing the election is child's play

They're prepared to do many more sinister things, you can be sure. If things aren't looking good for them before Nov. 6, you can expect plenty of widespread fraud, impossible voter requirements and hell -- even armed guards at polling places to scare people away — especially legal immigrants who have the right to vote and people or color.

[unitedwethrive]

22. Not to mention using those repub voting officials that they have been putting in place

to use broad authority to discount some votes and "lose" others.

Those same repubs who have been given positions of power are very susceptible to bribes...and we've seen how easy it is to simply change the memory cards in many of the voting machines.

I agree with the OP, the opposition has lied, cheated and stolen to gain the power they now have. It makes no sense that they will now sit back and "let democracy take it's course".

[beachbum bob]

14. Not possible to steal election if we all get off our asses, it's been OUR apathy

that's got America to where we are today.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

15. Media's in full horse race mode and trying to resucitate as mmany GOPers as they can

The Tennessee Senate debate couldn't have been framed more from the right.

It's 2016 all over again.

[Fullduplexxx]

17. Vote early

[diva77]

18. Not a single Democrat should concede until there has been a forensic analysis of ALL

machines, tabulators, etc. Dems will need to fund raise for recounts as well.

[wiggs]

20. Trump and GOP are part of a huge global effort by oligarchs worldwide. No way they would leave the

fate of 40 years of their planning to concentrate wealth and power to mere usa midterm elections. Many wealthy thumbs are on the scale.

Dems talked about election integrity a lot after 2000 and 2004...petitions, basement hearings, lots of press. Then after 2009 when something could be done, nothing. Didn't see proposed bills, gop on record filibustering reform, didn't see hearings and investigations. That was a chance to take a shot at reform.

[Amaryllis]

21. Hey, Garybeck. One good thing is that there is far more awareness than there was when they

stole 2004. It was nearly impossible to get anyone in the Dem party or the media to take the theft seriously back then, with the exception of Keith Olbermann. Even after senator Boxer and the Congressional BLack Causus in the house challenged the results before the confirmation of the electoral votes. Many more are aware now, and we have things like Stacy ABrams going on Daily Show and talking about voter suppression, and Russian influence alll over the media, and lots of talk about Kris Kobach and Crosscheck, although many states are still using it. So there is much more awareness, but i still don't know what we do about it.