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DFW

(54,448 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 04:14 PM Oct 2018

This is how we start taking the country back, from the ground up

A friend of mine is running for state auditor in Iowa. It may seem like a nothing post, but in a rural state like Iowa, it is anything but. He also has ambitions to go on from there (as in House and then Senate). He is currently only 1% up in the polls, but he is at least ahead of an entrenched incumbent who thought re-election was going to be a free ride in the era of Trump.

Rob looks like a nerdy 17 year old, but he is a smart guy in his mid-thirties who is from a tiny town in rural Iowa. Exactly the kind of Democrat we need in places like that.

Anyone in Iowa out there who is not voting straight party, please don't forget to vote for Rob Sand for state auditor.

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This is how we start taking the country back, from the ground up (Original Post) DFW Oct 2018 OP
Knr Beartracks Oct 2018 #1
Cute ad Demovictory9 Oct 2018 #2
He obviously has a very limited budget DFW Oct 2018 #4
Wow. You know everybody.. pangaia Oct 2018 #14
Not everybody, not even close DFW Oct 2018 #16
That is beautiful. You are so lucky, and so, I suspect, is he.. pangaia Oct 2018 #24
We always split wishing we had more time. DFW Oct 2018 #27
That is amazing to hear.... pangaia Oct 2018 #32
I envy your Thai experience DFW Oct 2018 #44
Well, I do have to agree with you about the media. I guess it is a 2 edged sword. pangaia Oct 2018 #45
I recall your talking about him before... CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2018 #3
K&R! Docreed2003 Oct 2018 #5
Thanks. Sent this to my brother and his family, elleng Oct 2018 #6
Thanks for that! DFW Oct 2018 #17
You're welcome. elleng Oct 2018 #20
Yes! This! violetpastille Oct 2018 #7
I told him I was proud of his effort in the ad spot DFW Oct 2018 #18
OMG, that spot is fantastic! Reader Rabbit Oct 2018 #8
Proud to have voted for him already rurallib Oct 2018 #9
He mentioned that her hands were not the cleanest DFW Oct 2018 #19
Be sure to keep us updated! Basement Beat Oct 2018 #10
I hope to hear the good news from him the day after the election. DFW Oct 2018 #21
Fuck it snort Oct 2018 #11
Fear not! DFW Oct 2018 #22
His web site ... CloudWatcher Oct 2018 #12
Thanks for that! DFW Oct 2018 #29
Point well taken, DFW. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #13
The smaller races is how we lost so much ground to begin with DFW Oct 2018 #25
He does look young, but I'm sure he's capable FakeNoose Oct 2018 #15
When I first met him DFW Oct 2018 #23
Does Iowa's auditor need to be an accountant? oberliner Oct 2018 #26
Mosiman wants to keep her job and is trying to make Rob look unqualified DFW Oct 2018 #28
There has been a Republican in this job since 1967 oberliner Oct 2018 #30
Maybe no Democrat has actively sought the post since 1967 with any serious effort DFW Oct 2018 #38
One party control since 1967 seems like a great campaign point to make to voters that an OhioBlue Oct 2018 #41
It's not a strong argument to make on its own DFW Oct 2018 #42
Good points. The way I see it, 50 years of Republican control in the Accountability office OhioBlue Oct 2018 #53
Exactly. Now you've got it. It's not enough to say "they've been there too long." DFW Oct 2018 #54
Thanks DFW mahina Oct 2018 #31
I fully admit DFW Oct 2018 #43
Just donated. AJT Oct 2018 #33
Very effective ad! BadGimp Oct 2018 #34
I'm wondering if you cross posted to the Iowa group. eom littlemissmartypants Oct 2018 #35
No. I probably should have. DFW Oct 2018 #39
I voted for him. 47of74 Oct 2018 #36
Done NBachers Oct 2018 #37
Thanks to all who donated. That was NOT the intention of my post! DFW Oct 2018 #40
Kick dalton99a Oct 2018 #46
Thats how the Tea Party did it! Catch2.2 Oct 2018 #47
No more unopposed Republicans DFW Oct 2018 #48
K&R! Omaha Steve Oct 2018 #49
Kick! Hekate Oct 2018 #50
I took the liberty of telling Rob about DU and your responses DFW Oct 2018 #51
Tell him for the next election, make a big jump dawg day Oct 2018 #52
Let's put it this way DFW Oct 2018 #55

DFW

(54,448 posts)
4. He obviously has a very limited budget
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 04:32 PM
Oct 2018

I think he did a very good job with the limited funds he has. I sent him some money, but I'm just one jerk out here across the sea. The ad is funny, personable but also to the point without even mentioning his opponent (VERY clever).

One note..the last time I saw Rob, we were in Washington in April, and when discussing his further ambitions, I told him he ought to talk to Howard Dean. He said he'd like to meet him some day. Some day? I said how about right now? I called Howard, and handed the phone to Rob. I thought they'd talk for a few minutes and exchange email addresses or something. Instead, they talked for HALF AN HOUR. Howard obviously saw (or, rather, heard) the same potential I did.

Ever the polite midwesterner, Rob even apologized for running my battery down. I said I'd let it ride this time, as it was for a good cause.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
14. Wow. You know everybody..
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:03 PM
Oct 2018

I met Dr Dean once.. A story I have told here several times and will not repeat now.

But, the Howard Dean you just described was exactly the Howard Dean I met.

I was flabbergasted at his genuineness, kindness, intelligence-- just a really good human being..

DFW

(54,448 posts)
16. Not everybody, not even close
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:37 PM
Oct 2018

But I've known Howard since he was "Howard Who?" and finishing up his time as governor of Vermont, closing in on 20 years now. We were together at a gathering at New Year's, when a friend of mine, said, "you should meet this guy--he's thinking of running for president, and I really think he has a chance."

We've kept in touch ever since, get together when we can (last had breakfast right here in Düsseldorf last October), even traded Leo Kottke guitar solos late into the night one time at some hotel (Howard is a 12 string guitar fan, as am I). His genuineness, kindness and intelligence, as you noted, are all in abundance. Too good for us to have as president, I guess. I'm proud to call him a friend.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
27. We always split wishing we had more time.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:10 PM
Oct 2018

I don't think either of us has slowed down since we first met. My job takes me to a different country almost every day, and he became a presidential candidate, then the most amazing DNC chair, and after that, he has been exactly what he told me in February, 2009: "raising hell for causes I care about."

Most people don't even know he is a big environmentalist among all the other causes he works on. He also was working on a march from Bangkok to the Burmese border to protest and raise awareness about human trafficking--just all sorts of stuff the headlines never bother with (they prefer him to comment on Trump in 2 minute segments on MSNBC, and ignore so much other stuff he cares deeply about).

He'll be 70 in November and has more energy than most 40 year olds I know.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
32. That is amazing to hear....
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:09 PM
Oct 2018

You know, it is probably just as well the media ignores the things he does that he really cares about... somehow, perhaps that makes them---- perhaps then they are not able to suck the life out of it.... cheapen it, like they cheapen almost everything else they touch.. Leaves what he does untouched and genuine.....


Especially interesting to me is the Bangkok to Burma march.

I guess only because I visited Thailand once some years ago and, among many other 'non-tourist adventures, rented a 'car' and drove from Chiangmai through the jungle to Mae Hon Son, before it was MAE HONG SON.. No airport yet. Almost no westerners when I was there..

We arrived after dark ( I had found a little place in I think, SMALL PLANET - something like that.) An Australian ex-pat and his Thai wife had a --- what... "accomodation'' they lived in a mostly open round. 'building'- a very big 'hut' if you will, and they rented out maybe 4-5 small huts with mat floors, etc , on the side of a mountain. When I drove in he exclaimed, "HOW DID YOU FIND US??" Lol.. Apparently he just had the place for when his many friends around the world where in country. Some, I surmised, quite important folks.. :&gt )

OH his wife could cook !!!


My entire 3-4 weeks in Thailand were like that... One magical adventure after another.....




DFW

(54,448 posts)
44. I envy your Thai experience
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 03:48 AM
Oct 2018

I was only there once, and only for three days, did the usual tourist passing through routine.

I'm of two minds on your view about the media ignoring so much of Howard's work outside of US politics. It does leave him some freedom he might not otherwise have had in these domains. On the other hand, his "causes" might have gotten some more support if they had been made more prominent. Plus, it would help negate some of the nastier comments like "Howard Dean has become a corporate sellout." Besides the fact that I automatically ignore any post dissing any Democrat containing "corporate" or "corporatist," Howard took his position as a bargain of convenience--he got some steady income, and his "firm" got to use his name. Seeing as how he has not suffered any restrictions on his activity by his "employer," I'd say he did not get the short end of the stick in that bargain.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
45. Well, I do have to agree with you about the media. I guess it is a 2 edged sword.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 11:42 AM
Oct 2018

I am also of 2 minds about 'dems and corporations.' What do I REALLY know about power at the top?

I live in the NY 27th district and the dem candidate is Nate McMurray, who is taking NO corporate $$$....running against indicted sleazeball, millionaire Chris Collins. :&gt )

It has gone from definite R to TOSS UP ! Nate needs $$ and the dem 'powers that be' give him nothing.. Not a penny... Although Perez did show up at a campaign headquarters opening.


Oh, in Bangkok, I jumped in the river and 'saved' a monk who tried to jump on one of those long-tailed boats with the 2000 HP Caddy motor just as it was pulling away from the floating dock. I was a brief hero. HA HA !!!

In fact I don't even know if they still have those boats.




CaliforniaPeggy

(149,739 posts)
3. I recall your talking about him before...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 04:27 PM
Oct 2018

And because you did, I sent him a contribution!

Glad to support a good guy.

elleng

(131,223 posts)
20. You're welcome.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:47 PM
Oct 2018

My sister in law thanked me, and I have hope they'll get the word out, as they have a large business and social circles. Fingers crossed!

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
7. Yes! This!
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:09 PM
Oct 2018

There are a lot of ideas floating around about how Democrats should message themselves.

Great job, Rob!

You can't fake sincerity, but you can't mistake it either.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
18. I told him I was proud of his effort in the ad spot
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:45 PM
Oct 2018

Iowa is one of the few states I've never been to, but I get the impression this is exactly what will resonate there.

Reader Rabbit

(2,624 posts)
8. OMG, that spot is fantastic!
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:25 PM
Oct 2018

It's like one of those interview questions where they ask you your biggest flaw, and you turn it into a strength.

Rob!

rurallib

(62,465 posts)
9. Proud to have voted for him already
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:36 PM
Oct 2018

his opponent is dragging her feet on auditing the Republicans on their medicaid privatization scam. Hope he wins big.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
19. He mentioned that her hands were not the cleanest
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:46 PM
Oct 2018

And Rob prides himself on being exactly that. The story of how he uncovered the lottery scam reads like a John Grisham novel.

Basement Beat

(659 posts)
10. Be sure to keep us updated!
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:52 PM
Oct 2018

It'll be a lot of races to follow in my state alone and fear this may end up slipping my mind during the flurry of news for the night.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
21. I hope to hear the good news from him the day after the election.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:49 PM
Oct 2018

He did say that his Republican opponent finally woke up to the fact that she actually had a fight on her hands, and was mobilizing the forces of evil to have her back. She was late getting started, though, not realizing that there was a Democrat out there actually interested in mounting a serious challenge.

snort

(2,334 posts)
11. Fuck it
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:20 PM
Oct 2018

Let's do it from the top down. But we can start with Rob. That's okay. Why is it I like Rob? Dammit, I already gave to Beto. Fuck it

CloudWatcher

(1,851 posts)
12. His web site ...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:37 PM
Oct 2018

For the google impaired, here's a link to his web site. There's a big red donate button on the front page

https://robsand.com

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,496 posts)
13. Point well taken, DFW.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:49 PM
Oct 2018

This is what Repugs have been doing for a long time, down at the levels where people many times don't even think about party affiliation.

One reason town, city, county and state level offices need to be pushed back leftward is because these smaller government structures do have significant pull and influence on government levels above them! A county board of commissioners can have substantial effects on state legislation, for example.

So, it can be bottom-up in that regard and we do need to pay more attention to these smaller races.....

DFW

(54,448 posts)
25. The smaller races is how we lost so much ground to begin with
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:02 PM
Oct 2018

Howard and Hillary are both working toward rectifying this, and I think this is why Howard talked to him for so long. Howard recognized something there. Jim and DFA have now been in touch, too. Rob could go far, but the longest journey still starts with that first step. I hope this is one of them.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
23. When I first met him
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:59 PM
Oct 2018

I thought he was a gawky teen looking for his parents. When I heard he was a 35 year old prosecutor from Iowa, I couldn't believe it. He was there by himself at the last New Year's gathering, and December 30 is always "dinner on your own." I saw him wandering around on his own, and invited him to join my family, as we were there with both girls and their boyfriends, and I had reserved a couple of extra places in case we got some hangers-on. I had reserved at my favorite Lebanese restaurant, and Rob had never had Lebanese food before (I think I made a convert). Despite our VERY different backgrounds and ages, we clicked, and I have kept in close touch with him ever since. If he is successful in getting the State Auditor's spot, I'd bet money on his representing his district in the House of Representatives within ten years, maybe sooner.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
28. Mosiman wants to keep her job and is trying to make Rob look unqualified
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:17 PM
Oct 2018

So obviously, not having done a great job (especially when it comes to uncovering Republican corruption), of course, she wants to make up SOMETHING that could disqualify Rob from the job. But he is a lawyer, and knows his way around legalities. She is running scared if she has to resort to this.

From the article you cite:

"Sand points to the section of Iowa law that spells out the duties of the state auditor. In that section, the law states, “audits or required fiscal year examinations shall be made as determined by the governmental subdivision either by the auditor of state or by certified public accountants, certified in the state of Iowa.”

Sand says because state law calls for audits from the auditor “or” an accountant, there is nothing to prevent him from fulfilling the office’s duties. He points to previous auditors who were not accountants.

“The statutes establishing the office create no legal requirement that the state auditor’s office be a CPA, and there is no consequence if the office is not a CPA firm,” Sand said. “Thus, any person by authority of holding the office can issue audits because they have been so elected.”

To Mosiman’s assertion that a non-accountant auditor would lead to outsourced work and thus higher costs, Sand said any additional costs would come out of the office’s budget and would not add to the state’s financial burden.

Sand’s campaign cited testimonials gathered by three Republican county attorneys who agree with his reading of state law."

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
30. There has been a Republican in this job since 1967
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:40 PM
Oct 2018

It would be pretty incredible for a Democrat to win!

DFW

(54,448 posts)
38. Maybe no Democrat has actively sought the post since 1967 with any serious effort
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:41 AM
Oct 2018

....which would be a symptom of our larger national predicament. Rob's dedication in going for the post was probably as much a surprise for the local Democrats as it was for his opponent. After all, who even WANTS to be state auditor of Iowa, right? This, of course, is exactly what we need nation-wide.

To paraphrase Mao: Let a million Rob Sands bloom. Let two dozen state legislatures be re-taken that way.

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
41. One party control since 1967 seems like a great campaign point to make to voters that an
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 03:02 AM
Oct 2018

Auditor's office which is supposed to provide checks and balances should not belong in the hands of one party for 50 years.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
42. It's not a strong argument to make on its own
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 03:29 AM
Oct 2018

You also have to point out that the job hasn't been well executed the whole time. We leave them an opening if we let them say that the reason Iowa's voters have left the job in Republican hands for 50 years is because Republicans have been doing such a wonderful job for 50 years. Iowa's voters need to see why they Republicans have been doing an ever worse job--complacency leads to lax enforcement which leads to corruption, which Rob has been so effective in combating. We have the more complicated argument to make. All they have to say is "Iowa has been voting for Republicans for this job for fifty years because they know we've been so good at it for 50 years." It requires a longer explanation to lay out why that is such a flawed argument, and people like simplistic explanations, even often preferring them to the truth (2016, e.g.).

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
53. Good points. The way I see it, 50 years of Republican control in the Accountability office
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 12:08 AM
Oct 2018

leads to a lot of instances of sweeping misdeeds or mistakes under the rug. No Republican is going to come in (especially an incumbent) and risk embarrassing their party brethren or being isolated from their party infrastructure by investigating those misdeeds. The pile under the rug is probably pretty big right now. Iowa voters need to find out what is under the rug.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
54. Exactly. Now you've got it. It's not enough to say "they've been there too long."
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 06:05 AM
Oct 2018

That's what the Republicans said about FDR in 1944, too.

Obviously they will point everywhere BUT under that rug. It's our job not only to point out what's under the rug, but to make people aware that a rug has been there for fifty years in the first place, and they don't want you looking at it. THAT's when they start stumbling all over themselves trying to yell that their voters need to be looking everywhere else but at that rug (sort of like the Kavanaugh nomination).

DFW

(54,448 posts)
43. I fully admit
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 03:35 AM
Oct 2018

If I hadn't met Rob myself, I wouldn't have had the faintest idea who he is, or why his race was in the slightest important. After all, what should a Texan living in Germany care about who becomes state auditor of Iowa, right? But it's men and women like Rob who will be the future base and nourishing ground for our party's next generation of leaders. After all, 15 years ago, there was a well-spoken young guy in the Illinois state legislature that wasn't on anyone's radar yet, either. Now, he's already a highly respected ex-president.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
39. No. I probably should have.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:43 AM
Oct 2018

I'll look at it, and if no one else has so far, I'll do it.

Like I said, I've never even been there, so it didn't occur to me.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
36. I voted for him.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:22 PM
Oct 2018

I voted straight goddamn D when I voted last Monday, including for Mr. Sand.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
40. Thanks to all who donated. That was NOT the intention of my post!
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 02:40 AM
Oct 2018

Obviously, Rob can use every cent donated. A campaign for state auditor of Iowa is not exactly the most glamorous fundraising cause out there. This isn't Beto against Cruz.

But it IS worthy of attention as a poster child for how we begin to make up for all those years we ignored races like Rob's all around the country. You don't get to cross the finish line if you weren't at the starting line.

Catch2.2

(629 posts)
47. Thats how the Tea Party did it!
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 11:44 AM
Oct 2018

Start at the local level and work our way up. We need to start getting progressive candidates in office at all levels. And for god's sake, vote!!!

DFW

(54,448 posts)
48. No more unopposed Republicans
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:13 PM
Oct 2018

This unfortunately will mean finding a lot of Democrats willing to run as hopeless causes, but we can't improve our numbers if we are willing to stay at zero.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
51. I took the liberty of telling Rob about DU and your responses
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 04:05 PM
Oct 2018

He was grateful for the support, both fiscal and moral!

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
52. Tell him for the next election, make a big jump
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 04:47 PM
Oct 2018

Auditor to governor
or
senator
or
congressman

We need young candidates who don't wait in line. (A certain young Illinois state senator comes to mind. For that matter, a young Arkansas governor.)

it's time for boomers to retire gracefully and be supportive with money and volunteering and wisdom. (I'm a boomer, ready to retire to wise guy status.

The more ambitious and bold young women and men elected officials the better. Just make the second (and third) jump a major one so all the way to the top, we get the Grassley types out.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
55. Let's put it this way
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:37 AM
Oct 2018

If I passed your suggestion to him, I would:

a) not be doing it for the first time, and
b) not be suggesting something he wasn't already thinking about.

He may look like a gawky nerd, but he is smart, well-spoken, and has thought plenty about the career rise of a certain Illinois state senator some 14 years ago. In 14 years, I'll be 80, but if he really goes that route, I have an inside track on who will be one of his elder foreign policy advisers, and it won't be Henry Kissinger!

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