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Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 12:28 AM Oct 2018

I just figured out what living through Trump's presidency is starting to feel like for me.

Hell obviously, but there is something else, something sinister in a surreal sense. I just woke up having fallen asleep on the couch feeling as though I have become a prop consumed by Trump's ever expanding ego. Then it hit me. It's like we're living inside a Philip K Dick novel. And for those of you who are familiar with his writing, I'm thinking Ubik. It's like Trump has begun to permeate our reality, transforming it into something feverish that is an extension of himself.

This isn't a political analysis, it's emotional. And psychological in that mind dissolving way that PKD so uniquely captured. The half (or is is hyper) lucid thoughts of just returning to waking consciousness. And like a Dick novel, it's hard to be confident that one ever does awaken while living inside it. Holding our for election day, but Dick's characters are always hanging on to something also, until the floor of reality caves in on them again.

For those who are not immediately familiar with Philip K Dick, he is the Sci Fi author who wrote the books and stories that Blade Runner, Total Recall, Minority Report, and the Man in the High Castle are based on. But I am thinking Ubik here, or the Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch... That is all for now. Hopefully

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I just figured out what living through Trump's presidency is starting to feel like for me. (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo Oct 2018 OP
My first thought was kidney stone, but yeah, a PKD novel works too... RHMerriman Oct 2018 #1
Painful as Hell Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #5
Many thanks... RHMerriman Oct 2018 #23
It's awful, and I can't let it go (even if I could) elleng Oct 2018 #2
You nailed it!! Rural_Progressive Oct 2018 #10
It would be a hell of a horror movie C_U_L8R Oct 2018 #3
I think you're onto something here . . . Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #4
Its like a bad dream that has you going in circles all night until you finally wake up ooky Oct 2018 #6
Holy crap that is as creepy as the trump era has become lunasun Oct 2018 #7
Yes, it's like when you have a substantial temp/fever and you sprinkleeninow Oct 2018 #8
Ubik Nasruddin Oct 2018 #9
Yep. Great novel, horrific reality n/t Tom Rinaldo Oct 2018 #11
Perfect call. n/t FSogol Oct 2018 #12
Good analogy. It is like that. zentrum Oct 2018 #13
Dread, anxiety every day - for me UTUSN Oct 2018 #14
Yes, Tom, we are definitely experiencing a Dickensian Dystopia. Nitram Oct 2018 #15
If we had the technology ready a significant number of humans would be scrambling Tom Rinaldo Oct 2018 #17
I read 15 or so of his novels when I was a Peace Corps volunteer in West Africa. There were Nitram Oct 2018 #19
Yep. Each of his writings has a dozen or so wild concepts embedded in the "main plot" Tom Rinaldo Oct 2018 #20
Good point. One novel could supply the theme for 5 different movies. Or more. Nitram Oct 2018 #21
It's pretty much what people of color, and to some extent women, have lived through for centuries. ehrnst Oct 2018 #16
In terms of real life consequences, and justified paranoia, absolutely Tom Rinaldo Oct 2018 #18
Yep, I made even madder HAB911 Oct 2018 #22

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
1. My first thought was kidney stone, but yeah, a PKD novel works too...
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 12:30 AM
Oct 2018

My first thought was kidney stone, but yeah, a PKD novel works too...

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
10. You nailed it!!
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 10:55 AM
Oct 2018

I've been very blessed in my life. If it ended tomorrow I could leave with a smile on my face but no, I can't leave because my daughter had a baby in April so now I'm in for the long haul.

There are days when that does not make me happy. As someone who's spent a lot of his life promoting sustainable agriculture I've been banging my head on a wall for most of my time here.

But you can't quit when you when you bear some responsibility for another two generations being on this earth.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
7. Holy crap that is as creepy as the trump era has become
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 02:25 AM
Oct 2018

And I was just getting ready to go to sleep

sprinkleeninow

(20,254 posts)
8. Yes, it's like when you have a substantial temp/fever and you
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 02:33 AM
Oct 2018

experience delirium.

Stupid disconnected nonsensical stuff plays in your mind over and over and over, and then you finally awake exhausted.

Nitram

(22,841 posts)
15. Yes, Tom, we are definitely experiencing a Dickensian Dystopia.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:53 AM
Oct 2018

A world-wide nuclear, biological, or chemical disaster is all we need to send us into a permanently underground existence.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
17. If we had the technology ready a significant number of humans would be scrambling
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:57 AM
Oct 2018

to colonize other planets right about now.

I've loved PKD since I was a teen, but I never wanted to live in the worlds he described. Nixon came more than close enough for me.

Nitram

(22,841 posts)
19. I read 15 or so of his novels when I was a Peace Corps volunteer in West Africa. There were
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:01 AM
Oct 2018

thousands of paperbacks of every genre in circulation among the 280 volunteers in Liberia, and Dick was one of the authors I discovered there. He doesn't do much with character, or even plot, but his IDEAS are pure genius. That's why his novels make good movies. He left a lot of room for character and plot development by screenwriters.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
20. Yep. Each of his writings has a dozen or so wild concepts embedded in the "main plot"
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:12 AM
Oct 2018

that another author would have used as the primary theme of the story or novel. With Dick they seem to fly by seen just in the corner of your eye, while he madly takes you somewhere else. I marvel at those small details. I remember one work (not by name unfortunately) where the protagonist gets bombarded by tiny robotic insects that fly up to his ear to deliver personalized commercials as he walks down the street. Now that concept familiar, but this was before the internet. And it had virtually nothing to do with his main plot - just a throwaway detail.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
16. It's pretty much what people of color, and to some extent women, have lived through for centuries.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 08:56 AM
Oct 2018

It's the experience becoming an adult and realizing in full what you are up against.

Welcome to the nightmare.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
18. In terms of real life consequences, and justified paranoia, absolutely
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:00 AM
Oct 2018

I don't know if you've read Dick, but the aspect of a malevolent expanding ego encompassing and dissolving predetermined reality has a very specific Dickonian flavor to it.

HAB911

(8,909 posts)
22. Yep, I made even madder
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 09:56 AM
Oct 2018

by the fact this is consuming 2+ years of my life and many old friends

Calculation: It's worth it because there is no other alternative

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