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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRegretful Trump voters tell CNN why they've turned on 'the dictator in White House':
CNNIndependent voter Anthony Miles, who was attracted to President Donald Trumps outsider status in the 2016 election, said he was hugely disappointed in the president getting caught up in one corruption scandal after another.
He said the system was rigged, and he said he was going to be a new sheriff in town, Miles said. And all hes done is surrounded himself with crooks. How many people have been indicted who are in close cahoots with him?
Miles also referred to Trump as the dictator in the White House.
So, our choices are: 1) welcome them back and build a stronger Democratic coalition, or 2) ostracize them as racist, sexist, bible-thumping xenophobes. Choices, choices...
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)We are not in charge of their lives.
BigGermanGuy
(131 posts)you can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think.
they either see the light, or they die in the darkness.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)It appears to me that it is only a handful who are realizing the cost of his handy work and they are now getting cold feet. They are just like Germany's victims who worshiped Hitler and Mussolini and reveling in their bloody conquests. They vast majority didn't mutter a syllable of descent as they ship millions of Jews, homosexuals, mental patients and dissenters to their death. They didn't have an ounce of compassion until they stood in the rubble of the cities bombed into oblivion and their fellow conspirers in abject evilness dead reduced to living in retched conditions. These people who are undergoing a moral enlightenment are not the victims of their self centered greed, it is the helpless who are the victims. They are the enablers of his evil policies that have denied medical care to millions, children who they would really care less about their daily struggle to even get enough to eat to survive. These are the same people who have consistently voted for a party that is solely dedicated to the enrichment of the privileged class. These are the same people who gorged themselves on the hatred spewed by the extreme right wing propagandists who dominate the airwaves 24 hours a day.
Sorry, but I am not impressed.
Cha
(297,438 posts)The Fucking Infrastructure for one huge thing.. And, "Cleaning up the Fucking Swamp"? trump assholes invented the Fucking Swamp.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)I stand corrected I should have said he has done much of what he promised. If the democrats fail to get control of the government he will complete the destruction of our nation.
gopiscrap
(23,762 posts)but for the time being: FUCK THEM!!! anyone who has voted republican is dead to me
progressoid
(49,992 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)They are welcome on OUR terms. But if they expect our party to throw our principles of diversity, fairness, commitment to civil rights under the bus, they can stay where they are.
Otherwise, welcome back.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,422 posts)Exactly
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)They made their bed. I won't hold my breath to see how they actually vote.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)There are these people, who have voted Democratic in the past and regret their choice of Trump and want to come back. I can understand that.
The people there's no use in reaching out to is Joe Smith who wears his MAGA hat every day, listens to Rush Limbaugh for three hours and then Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson at night and loves Trump because he "owns the libtards!!!"
Cirque du So-What
(25,953 posts)Welcome those who were taken in by the 'outsider' rhetoric but continue shunning the racists.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Support American democracy. Vote the incompetent, piggish, and traitorous KGOP republican kabal out of office. Elect Democrats.
Fullduplexxx
(7,866 posts)YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)The media spent so much time reporting on the die hard Trumpers, but I bet that group is only about 30% of voters.
The balance of his supporters are mainstream republicans who only support OrangeTurd for tax cuts and judges.
They cant stand him otherwise
Nitram
(22,843 posts)It wasn't only that category of people that voted for Trump.
Moostache
(9,897 posts)They made the choice in '16 to join the angry mob of misogynism and race-baiting. They decided to be dupes on their own, I had nothing to do with it. They now OWN the consequences. I'm not here to make people who rat-fucked the Democratic Party 2 years ago get over their feels...
You voted for Trump? You are a permanent asshole for that act...you keep voting for them and you are irredeemable. You want to start voting with some sense of what is going on and who is really going to help you and improve the conditions that exist in your life? Then do it, but stop trying to convince me that you did not throw the rocks through the proverbial windows last time. Own your guilt and complicity and atone, period. You get no special dispensation in the meantime...
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)betsuni
(25,573 posts)Not anyone wanting to elect Democrats.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)instead of indulging anger?
... Okay.
maxrandb
(15,344 posts)If you think that this one "focus-group" of sane people is going to offset the hundreds, if not thousands, of focus groups you've done over the past two years in every shithole in Dumbfuckistan, 'Murika, where we've had the pleasure of being told that "racism, sexism, white supremacy, cruelty, fascism and idiocracy" was just "the other side of the same coin", you've got another thing coming.
Please understand that when sane people are once again in power in our country, SOME OF YOU ARE GOING TO GO TO FUCKING JAIL FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO OUR NATION
No amount of "death-bed conversions" is going to change your fate. It was baked in the minute you started broadcasting hours upon hours of an empty podium with "Breaking News" flashing in the background.
You will be held to account.
Marengo
(3,477 posts)maxrandb
(15,344 posts)"journalists" is quite the stretch, don't ya' think?
Marengo
(3,477 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)What crime did they commit?
Perseus
(4,341 posts)Would you allow someone who doesn't know anything about mechanics to "fix" your car?
Would you go to someone who is not a doctor to examine you and treat you?
etc., etc.
Where do these people get off with being droned to an ignorant? What is the fascination about an ignorant?
This is so insane! Yeah, lets hire such and such, he is an ignorant, he should do a good job, he/she has no influence from being in that role.
JHan
(10,173 posts)Most Presidents have run on being an outsider and "shaking up D.C". It's actually tough to name presidents who didn't run on being an outsider. It's the oldest trick in the book.
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liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)If they are sincere, then they will vote with us. We shouldnt have to coddle them or even welcome them. Their bar is obviously way lower than most decent human beings. Its no sacrifice to refrain from voting for a POS so horrible hes made America gravely ill, with racists and Nazis crawling out from the sewers again. The people I appreciate and have deep respect for are those whove been fighting the good fight and doing the right thing for decades, and still havent given up hope.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Regretful Trump voter begs for forgiveness on CNN: I am sorry I voted for him Ive enabled this monster
regretful Trump voter told CNNs Alisyn Camerota on Tuesday that she was deeply sorry for backing the president in 2016 and she vowed to fight him everyday to make amends!
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/regretful-trump-voter-begs-forgiveness-cnn-sorry-voted-ive-enabled-monster/
tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)Nasruddin
(754 posts)but repubs too. And independents.
They did get what they voted for.
Repentance and a vow to do better in the future is always a good thing.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)That's bullshit all on its own.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)A very intelligent, wise, and wonderful woman!
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)independent swing voters or whatever the heck they want to be. IM old enough to remember before the days of identity politics - when a certain no. of voters voted for purely pragmatic reasons like pulling the pendulum back to center. Or to maintain checks and balances in govt.
Its a good thing that at least some are waking up and seeing this mess for what it is. As Ive been telling my tea party sibs, you don't have to like democrats to want a functioning two party system where one serves as checks and balances to the other.
Aristus
(66,434 posts)We just need them to not vote for Trump again.
Fuck them and their fecklessness.
We told them not to vote for him, but noooooooooo...
Paladin
(28,267 posts)As for the overwhelming majority that continues to worship trump: Fuck 'em. Defeat them at the polls and then pretend they don't exist, family members included.
The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)That being said, let them vote democratic, and let them prove they mean that vote. Clearly trump was a racist and a misogynist during the campaign. They voted for that, because outside of that nothing trump said on the policy front made any sense. If they have remorse let them prove it. How many people have been hurt or even killed because these people decided to enable trump's behavior? Blood is on their hands.
radical noodle
(8,008 posts)there's no welcoming or ostracizing. All they do is vote sometimes and they were probably gullible and swayed by his con-job campaign. If they were actually racist, sexist, Bible-thumping xenophobes they wouldn't be leaving him. They'd be more supportive of him than ever.
Leith
(7,813 posts)samnsara
(17,625 posts)ffr
(22,671 posts)It does almost no good to welcome them in to our coalition, if they say harbor hatred in their hearts for democrats. They must be educated to think for themselves and to identify what we all identify as frauds, these illiberal republicans they keep voting into office.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)As if there wasn't a mountain of evidence pointing to corruption before the election.
Anyway, methinks DU posts have no bearing on how Anthony and the like are going to vote.
anarch
(6,535 posts)wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)Do us a favor and stop voting.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)But just this time.
ProfessorGAC
(65,111 posts)Why am i not surprised?
VOX
(22,976 posts)The current wave of right-wing-nationalism is spreading around the world like a disease. Its been seen in Russia, Poland, Italy, France, Sweden, Brazil, etc., and now, the United States is flirting with it.
Whoever voted for Trump, I cannot forgive at the moment. I need to see them work it off. They can start by voting the complete Democratic Party ticket next month and again in 2020.
Takket
(21,600 posts)Im an outsider Miles? Will you vote for me?
What a fucking stupid ass reason to vote for someone.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)How much of a roll did sexism play in some people voting against Hilary Clinton? I do not see how people could not have seen this coming. Also, the major snap back to supporting Democratic candidates after the election make me wonder if some of the unwillingness to vote for Hilary Clinton was due to the fact that she was a woman.
LonePirate
(13,427 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)This is the lesson from countries that escaped from authoritarianism and those that didn't. The anti-authoritarians have to put aside past differences and unite against the common enemy. In our case this will include people on the right who wake up to the danger their own candidate presents.
It's not that they suddenly want universal healthcare or converted to #metoo. It's that they value democracy over other things and are willing to put those issues aside until the danger passes. As should we.
Cha
(297,438 posts)from those who were sticking with him no matter what for 2 fucking years.
Hell yeah they can for Dems.. Good Choice!
Cha
(297,438 posts)on national tv.
lindysalsagal
(20,713 posts)These resentful people will just move from one target to another: They can't learn.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Or at least admit there are more than two options.
If these people truly regret it, exactly what are they expecting from us now? Not one of us is going to tell them to shove their new found enlightenment....
But they dont get to say sorry and then make us work to make them feel better about themselves. Nope. Not gonna happen. No way.
Life is too short for regrets. Vote for Democrats.