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JudyM

(29,251 posts)
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 12:02 PM Oct 2018

Report: If Not for Republican Policies, the Federal Government Would Be Running a Surplus

WASHINGTON, Oct. 15 – Following an announcement Monday from the Treasury that the federal government ran a deficit of $779 billion in Fiscal Year 2018, the Democratic staff on the Senate Budget Committee released a report showing that the federal government would be running a surplus today if not for four Republican policies.

Without the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the enormous post-9/11 defense buildup and two rounds of costly, regressive tax cuts, the federal government would be running a $156 billion surplus instead of a $779 billion deficit. The Trump Tax Cuts – which coupled permanent corporate tax cuts with temporary individual tax cuts – added $164 billion to the 2018 deficit.

The Bush tax cuts contributed $488 billion to the deficit in FY 2018, the Trump tax cuts added $164 billion, the direct costs of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan ran up $127 billion and base defense increases led to $156 billion in spending.


https://www.budget.senate.gov/ranking-member/newsroom/press/report-if-not-for-republican-policies-the-federal-government-would-be-running-a-surplus

We should broadcast these numbers widely...
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Report: If Not for Republican Policies, the Federal Government Would Be Running a Surplus (Original Post) JudyM Oct 2018 OP
Don't forget the extra VA costs to care for the veterans from the war in Iraq lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #1
Yep Cosmocat Oct 2018 #9
I had this sticker posted in my school: MyOwnPeace Oct 2018 #10
Thank Bill Clinton. moondust Oct 2018 #2
Exactly. The entire national debt would be paid off years ago if not for Pukes. nt hvn_nbr_2 Oct 2018 #8
+1 dalton99a Oct 2018 #22
'McConnell wants to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid to pay for Republicans' ... Donkees Oct 2018 #3
This bears repeating from time to time FakeNoose Oct 2018 #7
Thank you. They_Live Oct 2018 #17
it's the plan Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #4
EXACTLY! Duppers Oct 2018 #5
Broadcasting these numbers might change Duppers Oct 2018 #6
If ever there was a time to make clear how much better/fairer we govern, it's now. JudyM Oct 2018 #18
I've been debating extending a conversation Duppers Oct 2018 #19
The Sirens' call. We just keep thinking that if they understood the facts they'd get reasonable. JudyM Oct 2018 #20
K&R Scurrilous Oct 2018 #11
Why are they referred to as "permanent" tax cuts ? rickford66 Oct 2018 #12
They're Not ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #13
That was my point. rickford66 Oct 2018 #14
They're Reporters ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #15
Recommend! BeckyDem Oct 2018 #16
Kick. CrispyQ Oct 2018 #21

lapfog_1

(29,215 posts)
1. Don't forget the extra VA costs to care for the veterans from the war in Iraq
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 12:14 PM
Oct 2018

I will discount the war in Afghanistan as I think it was justified... up until we kill Bin Laden.

And then we should have occupied the country (with a massive military presence) and rebuilt it with modern schools, etc.

MyOwnPeace

(16,936 posts)
10. I had this sticker posted in my school:
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 02:10 PM
Oct 2018

"After we rebuild Iraq,
can we rebuild our own school?"

Still waiting..............................

moondust

(20,001 posts)
2. Thank Bill Clinton.
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 12:14 PM
Oct 2018

1998:

“Well ahead of the most ambitious schedule, America has balanced the budget,” Clinton declared. “America can now turn off the deficit clock, long a sign of our leaders’ failure of will, and plug in the surplus clock, a symbol all Americans can look to with pride.”

Beside him, a large chart showed a $150 billion surplus projected through 2003.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2018/06/22/Bill-Clinton-s-Surplus-Miracle-20-Years-Later

The surpluses were projected to retire the national debt in a decade or so.

Then came Bushco and Republicans so obsessed with passing tax cuts that they seemingly ignored everything else including some bad guys learning to fly airplanes into tall buildings. The rest is history.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,383 posts)
4. it's the plan
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 12:23 PM
Oct 2018

The GOPer plan is to starve government, blame Democrats, and remove the ability of the Democratic Party to provide social programs such as education, infrastructure, health care, care for the elderly, and EPA. This has been the plan since at least Nixon.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
6. Broadcasting these numbers might change
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 01:32 PM
Oct 2018

some independents' minds, but will not influence rethugs whatsoever. They dismiss any and all Dems' statements.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
18. If ever there was a time to make clear how much better/fairer we govern, it's now.
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 10:25 PM
Oct 2018

Some folks are taking a look at voting dem for the first time, and this gives them more solid reasons.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
19. I've been debating extending a conversation
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 10:59 PM
Oct 2018

With a woman I've not seen in 50yrs. She contacted me last week thru FB (which I've ghosted yrs ago). But curiosity got the best of me, so I made contact, after her request. 1st thing she said, "I'm a Republican, so will you still accept me as a FB friend?" She apparently had read the "about me" info where I stated I will not be friends with a Republican. (I should have also added religious people.)

I texted her a list of reasons repubs are terrible, especially TRump. She ignore it and went on to personal chi-chat which I returned where was able to brag, on purpose, and sent pics.

I've been debating for days now as to whether I should even try to engage her politically by asking her to defend her Republican voting/membership. She's 73, I'm 72 (soon). Or should I just kick her to the curb as I have every other childhood friend I've tried to engage? They are as stubbornly impossible as they are ignorant. I've tried with far too many including my brother and s.i.l. It has always come down to...

In my experience with southern repubs, any enlightening discussion is futile. Sorry. This has included by own mother. Decades ago I told her "facts don't matter to you, your mind is made up."

It might make a difference to other age groups and in other parts of the country.


Perhaps I should try one more time.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
20. The Sirens' call. We just keep thinking that if they understood the facts they'd get reasonable.
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 11:04 PM
Oct 2018

And then, the whooshing sound as they swipe the football away at the last second á la Charlie Brown’s Lucy.

rickford66

(5,524 posts)
12. Why are they referred to as "permanent" tax cuts ?
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 03:01 PM
Oct 2018

What makes them "permanent"? Is Roe v Wade permanent ?

ProfessorGAC

(65,111 posts)
13. They're Not
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 03:04 PM
Oct 2018

Just requires congress to make them "unpermanent". It's not constitutional to pass a law that can't be reversed by a different congress.

rickford66

(5,524 posts)
14. That was my point.
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 03:11 PM
Oct 2018

They're consistently referred to as "permanent" which isn't true. The media should refer to them as "temporary" tax cuts.

ProfessorGAC

(65,111 posts)
15. They're Reporters
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 03:17 PM
Oct 2018

The r's called the biz cuts permanent and they are, IIRC, listed that way in the legislation, but that phrase in the bill is meaningless.

So, from a pure "non-partisan" reporting standpoint, it's an accurate description. It's a lie, but accurate.

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