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pstokely

(10,530 posts)
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 04:03 PM Oct 2018

Is It Possible to Be an Anti-Abortion Democrat? One Woman Tried to Find Out

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/us/missouri-democrats-abortion-republicans-voters.html

"ST. LOUIS — Joan Barry has been a member of the Missouri Democratic Party for 53 years. As a state legislator, she voted regularly for workers’ rights, health care and programs for the poor.

So when the party began writing a new platform after its crushing losses in 2016, Ms. Barry, a member of its state committee, did not think it was too much to ask for a plank that welcomed people like her — Democrats who oppose abortion.

At first the party agreed and added it. Missouri’s Democratic senator, Claire McCaskill, even called Ms. Barry to praise her.

But within days, Ms. Barry began receiving angry emails and Facebook messages. People called her a dinosaur, a has-been and worse. Her children started to worry."
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Is It Possible to Be an Anti-Abortion Democrat? One Woman Tried to Find Out (Original Post) pstokely Oct 2018 OP
So sick of this wording passing without question: The issue is ANTI-CHOICE... hlthe2b Oct 2018 #1
+1 MLAA Oct 2018 #6
Exactly right! peggysue2 Oct 2018 #12
Right back atcha..exactly! MLAA Oct 2018 #13
This story was on The Daily over the past two days, worth a listen. Agschmid Oct 2018 #2
It's disgusting that women's bodily autonomy is still considered expendable. 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2018 #3
...or even negotiable. (n/t) Iggo Oct 2018 #7
Yup - I think that was the word I was looking for! 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2018 #8
Is she pro-choice? Iggo Oct 2018 #4
That is the real question MiniMe Oct 2018 #5
She can be anti-abortion for herself, but a Democrat should be pro-choice when it comes to policy. haele Oct 2018 #9
I know several people who have a Bettie Oct 2018 #10
Do we REALLY need this discussion 20 days from the midterms? Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #11
Senator Donnelly (D) labels himself Pro Life forthemiddle Oct 2018 #14

hlthe2b

(102,347 posts)
1. So sick of this wording passing without question: The issue is ANTI-CHOICE...
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 04:05 PM
Oct 2018

Allowing Dems to be painted as PRO-ABORTION when the issue is PRO-CHOICE has always been WRONG, deceptive, and giving into RW framing.

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
12. Exactly right!
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 05:17 PM
Oct 2018

For Dems it has always been Pro-Choice, which means that any woman can choose to end a pregnancy. Or not. The Pro-Abortion label is the Republican narrative, a rewrite of the original.

We need to take or own narrative back. I often think back to one of the few honest moments Sarah Palin had when she admitted to considering an abortion when she found out she was pregnant and that her fetus had the markers for Down's. This sort of choice is personal and agonizing for any woman. But Palin would not have had the luxury of even thinking about the decision without Pro-Choice legislation. She chose to take her pregnancy to term.

Her choice. Something that all women deserve.

SLRs--safe, legal and rare. That third quality depends on sex education and contraception availability, both of which Republicans--particularly fundamentalist Christian men--would like to limit.

Make no mistake, this is all about controlling women and their reproductive decisions.

haele

(12,674 posts)
9. She can be anti-abortion for herself, but a Democrat should be pro-choice when it comes to policy.
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 04:30 PM
Oct 2018

Abortion is only a symptom of a pregnancy that is not viable, when it comes down to it. Whether it's due to a miscarriage or serious cervical/uterine condition, or if the pregnancy is not mentally, emotionally, or economically viable to the woman who would otherwise be unwillingly forced to put her body through 8 or 9 months of physical restrictions and risk injury or death if something else goes wrong.

Abortion is not a social "issue" like religious preference - it's a safe and relatively simple medical procedure to deal with a pregnancy that is deemed not viable.

Even "Anti-Abortion" democrats should understand that birth control and family planning are critical to the health and wellbeing of families in general, not just women.

Pro-choice policies give women in general autonomy; it gives them control over their bodies and future. It raises them out of the social rank of 2nd-class citizenry - of ultimately being infantilized human breeding vessels that must be "protected" once they finally fulfill "the job Nature and God gave them" to push a man's progeny out their bodies after 9 months.

And that's pretty much what it comes down to, no matter what one may personally believe about abortion or "innocent children in utero".

Haele

Bettie

(16,121 posts)
10. I know several people who have a
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 04:41 PM
Oct 2018

problem with abortion, but they are also realists who understand that if it is made illegal women will die. '

So, they work toward: Comprehensive Sex Ed, Free/low cost and easily available contraception, and Social programs that support women and children as well as other things that they believe will reduce the number of abortions.

They understand that it is never going away, but they don't like that it is necessary.

forthemiddle

(1,382 posts)
14. Senator Donnelly (D) labels himself Pro Life
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 05:45 PM
Oct 2018

In his latest commercial running in Indiana.

I personally hate litmus tests when it comes to politics, because someone can agree with a party 95% of the time, but have one or two issues they morally can’t agree with the party. Take the candidate, even with the flaws, and We can get to the majority which is what we strive for.

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