North America Prior to Illegal immigration

[packman]

[dalton99a]

1. Kick

[democratisphere]

2. Those white caucasian Europeans ruined everything!

[2naSalit]

3. +1

[a la izquierda]

4. These maps are a problem.

I get why people post them, but for instance, the Aztec Empire and the Olmec (lower right, hard to see) existed nearly 1000 years apart.
The huge macro-regions for the Cherokees and Iroquois subsume all of the other many identities. The maps assume a pan-indigenous identity that simply didn’t exist.
Plus then there’s the borders.
Anyway, I get the point of them, but they’re historically inaccurate.

[packman]

5. True - terribly historically inaccurate

except for the message.

BTW - got this map from a dump site you may be interested in:

https://www.pinterest.com/search/pins/?autologin=true&rs=srs&q=indian%20history&source_id=ers_RW3DRqYz&utm_campaign=recommended_searches&utm_medium=2031&utm_source=31&e_t=4aa5b112785340eab9302cd79be19a51

[a la izquierda]

6. Thanks!!! I'm always looking for cool maps. Nt

[flyingfysh]

15. I had thought that the Choctaws were in what is now Mississippi.

Some of them got forcibly relocated to Oklahoma, some somehow managed to stay in Mississippi.

Some of my ancestors (who seem to have been scoundrels) tried to claim membership among the Choctaws, and also among the Mississippi Choctaws. (there was land to be had for successful claims). They earlier tried to claim Chickasaw. The US government Dawes Commission rightly turned down all their claims. Even after all that, my great-grandfather seems to have thought he was part Cherokee; maybe he was told that. I wouldn't vouch for his character, he abandoned my grandmother when she was four years old. I have a copy of the original documents, and stamped diagonally across one page is a huge REJECTED stamp.

[lunasun]

7. ++ Agree 100 % but I guess it gives a good feels meme. Weird how Olmec get thrown on the map etc.

as displaced by Europeans

[Beartracks]

10. I was thinking the same thing! But...

... the point of the meme is one that Americans need to think about.

But, yeah, I'm kind of an accuracy nerd. Lol

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[suffragette]

11. Agree. First thing I noticed is Haida Gwai extending south through Coast Salish regions. Coast

Salish nowhere to be seen in southern coastal B.C. and western Washington.

[AZ8theist]

8. Yeah, but her emails!!!!!

[struggle4progress]

9. Homeland Security

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[PufPuf23]

13. Finally after years bought a t-shirt with the with the "Homeland Security" just last week.

Have not worn as yet.

It is pale lavender, the photo is colorized, 100% cotton, good construction, and only $20.

Bought it at what was the Pearson Store but now operated by the Yurok Tribe on the Yurok Reservation just at the confluence of the Klamath and Trinity Rivers (Weitchpec). I stopped for whatever and there was a large new shipment just out.

Nice to live in a remote and beautiful area in the current world, certainly my personal security.

[PufPuf23]

12. That is not that accurate a map. Here is a more specific map of California.

[cstanleytech]

14. Technically even they are immigrants as well as humans are a relatively new arrival to both North

and South America.