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iluvtennis

(19,861 posts)
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:20 AM Oct 2018

People who are voting straight DEMOCRAT in Texas are noticing their votes switched to Cruz!


@DogginTrump, 7m7 minutes ago

*ALERT TO ALL DEM VOTERS IN TEXAS!

People who are voting straight DEMOCRAT in Texas are noticing their votes switched to Cruz!

Wherever city you’re voting in, if you don't have paper ballots, make sure you DOUBLE CHECK YOUR VOTES!

RETWEET!




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Sure hope this is just an anomaly. We really need paper ballots across the board.
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People who are voting straight DEMOCRAT in Texas are noticing their votes switched to Cruz! (Original Post) iluvtennis Oct 2018 OP
KR!! Cha Oct 2018 #1
WARNING Texas Straight Democratic Ticket Voters...Your machines are checking TED CRUZ iluvtennis Oct 2018 #2
Though I voted straight dem LostOne4Ever Oct 2018 #3
Correct thing to do...double check...you're not neurotic iluvtennis Oct 2018 #5
RETWEETED! Cha Oct 2018 #4
Thanks! iluvtennis Oct 2018 #6
The good news: It's happening to Republicans too! LeftInTX Oct 2018 #7
their votes are switching to crz? nt msongs Oct 2018 #8
They're switching to Beto LeftInTX Oct 2018 #17
It's worse for Democrats because their vote gets switched to Cruz and Republican's Quixote1818 Oct 2018 #9
If it's a hack.... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #28
NO WAY this is a glitch. This is by design! Democrats need to demand do-overs in areas Quixote1818 Oct 2018 #10
This happened in states around the country in the 2004 election. whathehell Oct 2018 #23
Republican hacker logic was that "B" comes before "K". KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #29
Or just fucking pay attention when they vote. Blue_true Oct 2018 #44
paper is the only valid ballot Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #11
"did you just open a garage door somewhere?"... backtoblue Oct 2018 #37
Along those lines... FiveGoodMen Oct 2018 #47
This is happening in Tarrant County MagickMuffin Oct 2018 #12
This is why I never ever vote straight party gay texan Oct 2018 #13
I also select each one; area51 Oct 2018 #21
When LiberalLovinLug Oct 2018 #14
When stopbush Oct 2018 #24
There's so much sympathy for paper ballot around here that you're preaching to the choir, I think. ancianita Oct 2018 #30
And when have they ever made that a top promise? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2018 #41
They did, in 2006 and even more in 2008. Nothing was done then and Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2018 #43
I Read Earlier Here On DU That The Same Kind Of Vote Switching Is..... global1 Oct 2018 #15
NC, posted in the North Carolina Group. sprinkleeninow Oct 2018 #31
NC voting discrepancies link to post. littlemissmartypants Oct 2018 #32
We hear this sort of thing every damned election PatSeg Oct 2018 #16
And it is never voting for a Republican and being switched to a Democrat. Wintryjade Oct 2018 #19
Yeah PatSeg Oct 2018 #27
That happened in 2004 Kerry to Bush. Wintryjade Oct 2018 #18
That's how they do. ancianita Oct 2018 #20
It's almost like Republicans don't believe in Democracy or something. Hmmm. byronius Oct 2018 #22
I hope it's a photoshop prank. to be sure call ACLU. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2018 #25
GOP and their dirty Tricks! UCmeNdc Oct 2018 #26
i never lazy ass my vote. tick each box. PAPER BALLOT! pansypoo53219 Oct 2018 #33
I saw this happen on a DRE in Florida in 2004...it's an old trick the repubs have used for years... Sancho Oct 2018 #34
At the risk if being called a Debbie Downer by the faction here that Squinch Oct 2018 #35
Just alerted some of my friends on email. Liberal In Texas Oct 2018 #36
This is the first year in Arkansas that you cannot choose paper ballot. Forced to sinkingfeeling Oct 2018 #38
This quote both cracks me up and pisses me off: phylny Oct 2018 #39
On the news this morning OBrien Oct 2018 #40
That is why I select EACH democrat. Blue_true Oct 2018 #42
I'm beginning to worry ThoughtCriminal Oct 2018 #45
Indeed. iluvtennis Oct 2018 #46

iluvtennis

(19,861 posts)
2. WARNING Texas Straight Democratic Ticket Voters...Your machines are checking TED CRUZ
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:26 AM
Oct 2018

WARNING Texas Straight Democratic Ticket Voters...Your machines are checking TED CRUZ instead of @BetoORourke Make sure you DO NOT HIT THE RED BUTTON before your check your ballot! Ask your poll workers for help if you need it WATCH here https://abc13.com/4556377/ #VoteForBeto



LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
3. Though I voted straight dem
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:27 AM
Oct 2018

I always go through and make sure to bubble each candidate...cause I am that neurotic

Quixote1818

(28,943 posts)
9. It's worse for Democrats because their vote gets switched to Cruz and Republican's
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:43 AM
Oct 2018

ballots don't give the vote to anyone. Switching a vote does more damage than not counting one.

If you have the problem happen to 10 people and five are Dems and 5 are Republicans here is what you are left with:

You have 5 Dems vote and that ends up zero votes for Beto and 5 for Cruz

You have 5 Republicans vote and that ends up zero votes for Beto and zero for Cruz.

So out of those 10 voters Cruz gets 5 and Beto 0.

https://abc13.com/politics/straight-party-voters-reporting-their-votes-were-changed/4556377/

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
28. If it's a hack....
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 04:20 AM
Oct 2018

any smart hacker would make sure some changes hit both parties but would insure the totals are skewed toward their preference. That provides a window for the "both sides" argument to throw shade on the event.

I hope some Texans are requesting an investigation regardless......

Quixote1818

(28,943 posts)
10. NO WAY this is a glitch. This is by design! Democrats need to demand do-overs in areas
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:50 AM
Oct 2018

this is occuring. Those machines need to be smashed into pieces and paper ballots handed out. Period!

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
23. This happened in states around the country in the 2004 election.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:40 AM
Oct 2018

Some electronic voting machines were reported as turning Kerry votes to Bush votes -- but not the reverse.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
44. Or just fucking pay attention when they vote.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:29 PM
Oct 2018

Either select each democrat individually and double check before sealing the vote, or vote straight Dem and DOUBLECHECK before sealing the vote. Votes get stolen when people don't pay attention.

I can't believe some people that holler about stolen elections don't see the damed need for people to pay attention when they are voting.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
11. paper is the only valid ballot
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:54 AM
Oct 2018

You can't see what electrons do when you press a button. Did you just open a garage door somewhere?

Paper can be seen by everyone involved.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
47. Along those lines...
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:10 AM
Oct 2018

"I got a new apartment last year and it had a wall switch that didn't do anything. Every once in a while I'd flip it up and down just because. Then I got a letter from a lady in Germany that said 'cut it out'"

-- Steven Wright

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
12. This is happening in Tarrant County
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:56 AM
Oct 2018

The Election Admin said to slow down and make sure the turn wheel doesn't move and to recheck your vote before hitting the ballot button.


This is why I never ever vote early. You cannot have a paper ballot, only on the general election day can you have a choice.

gay texan

(2,453 posts)
13. This is why I never ever vote straight party
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:19 AM
Oct 2018

I always go through and select each one. I did that just a few days ago

ancianita

(36,060 posts)
30. There's so much sympathy for paper ballot around here that you're preaching to the choir, I think.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 04:23 AM
Oct 2018

I responded to every email from every Democractic Party org back in 2007, telling, even threatening to withhold contributions to them, to change this country's voting to paper ballot.

Threads have come up within six months of every election since 2000 in Florida.

Don't think that some states among the 50 jurisdictions won't try to battle the change out in the courts.

Besides the fact that The People's will and interests don't get air time, political control and sunk cost fallacy do get media play. .

Only the dream-come-true of a willing majority in both houses might make this paper ballot dream happen.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
41. And when have they ever made that a top promise?
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:45 PM
Oct 2018

When do you hear Democrat spokespersons on news programs raising this alarm as if it were one of the most important issues of our time? For the security of our very democracy?

I'm not talking about some magical future, IF Democrats ever get in power again because of this. I do not see any indication that they take this as a serious issue. In fact they seem to schluff it off whenever they are asked about it.

So let me get this straight. You are angry, not at Democrats silence on this issue, but at someone else that is angry about their silence?. That someone concerned about it doesn't want to wait for some perfect future when Democrats hold all branches AND have majorities of Governorships....then...when.....they don't need to?

My point is that they may never ever get to that position, if they don't start talking about it. The time is NOW (actually years ago) . Of course they can't pass new policy, obviously. What part of "DEMAND" did you not understand?

global1

(25,251 posts)
15. I Read Earlier Here On DU That The Same Kind Of Vote Switching Is.....
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:29 AM
Oct 2018

happening in another state. I don't remember what state though. Maybe someone else here will remember.

Looks like a pattern may be developing of vote switching. Everyone voting - in every state - should be watching for this.

 

Wintryjade

(814 posts)
18. That happened in 2004 Kerry to Bush.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:05 AM
Oct 2018

People and poll workers would try a number of times and could not get a Kerry vote. I had heard it on other election years, too. But, it was really bad in 2004 especially in the Houston area, if I remember correctly.

byronius

(7,395 posts)
22. It's almost like Republicans don't believe in Democracy or something. Hmmm.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:39 AM
Oct 2018

Pesky. Gets in the way of caging children and profiling browns and all the things they so love to do as the inheritors of the vaunted ideology of lunatic tribalism.

They wrap themselves in the flag and hate the ideas.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
34. I saw this happen on a DRE in Florida in 2004...it's an old trick the repubs have used for years...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 06:20 AM
Oct 2018

and actually is probably widespread in the programming of DRE hacking.

I have no idea why it's not caught more often.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
35. At the risk if being called a Debbie Downer by the faction here that
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 06:59 AM
Oct 2018

becomes furious when we talk of addressing vote theft in addition to GOTV efforts, I am kicking and reccing.

Liberal In Texas

(13,554 posts)
36. Just alerted some of my friends on email.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 07:36 AM
Oct 2018

Told them to watch out for it, but most of them are like me, like to tick off each race individually.

This is disgusting and hard to believe that it isn't repub election fraud.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
39. This quote both cracks me up and pisses me off:
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 08:26 AM
Oct 2018

"It's not a glitch, it's a user-induced problem that comes from the type of system that we have," Oldham said. "I think both sides could be equally hurt."

1) User-error is when the user makes a mistake. The user is NOT making a mistake, the machines are glitchy.

2) No, both sides aren't hurt equally. If you choose a straight Democratic ticket, your senate vote goes to Cruz. If you choose a straight Republican ticket, your vote goes to no one.

They cheat and they lie to win.

OBrien

(363 posts)
40. On the news this morning
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 08:32 AM
Oct 2018

In Houston. Glad they reported on it but very worrying since so many have already voted. They reported that this has been going on for years! It happened to me in 2004 when I tried to vote for Kerry. It bounced to Bush! I alerted the poll worker and she told me it had been happening to some others. We will vote this morning and plan to pass the word around.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. That is why I select EACH democrat.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:22 PM
Oct 2018

Florida does not have a straight party vote choice, but if it did, I would still select each individual Democrat.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
45. I'm beginning to worry
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 08:10 PM
Oct 2018

That the light switch in the living room that doesn't "do anything" is either:

1) Opening and closing a missile silo door in Wyoming

or

2) Casting votes for Republicans.

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