Kristallnacht?-Had only a few bombs gone off we would have an equivalent

[randr]

Had any one of the bombs targets been killed we would be looking at a brand new world.

"The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is rapidly fading
And the first one now will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'"
B. Dylan
Is anyone really paying any attention??

[BumRushDaShow]

1. I wouldn't make that comparison

because when you had this happen 55 years ago -



and black churches continued to be burned/attacked for the next half century, no one thought anything of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_against_African-American_churches

[randr]

2. A very sad truth

A horror that has never really ended as well.
Thank you for pointing that out.

[BumRushDaShow]

3. Hate crimes, no matter for what reason

seem to have little impact on this country - mainly due to this country's large population and geographic size and spread.

There are quite a few people suffering right now just due to weather. Their stories have dropped off the news but they are still suffering the impacts from the record California wildfires, to the floods from excessive rains and 2 hurricanes, all through the deep south - from the Gulf coast through the coastal Atlantic, and the recent tornadoes in the upper midwest and even the northeast (like the 13 my state got in a month and the recent one in Massachusetts). Where I am, a nor'easter is due this weekend and that is going to tear up the midatlantic coast and cause more damage - especially since the trees are still in full leaf around these parts and we have had a wet summer (so trees will be falling).

These domestic terror things are the farthest from their minds at the moment.

[randr]

4. Domestic terrorism is our biggest threat

[BumRushDaShow]

5. Yes. Exactly.

And the U.S. as a society, has yet to deal with it. It has been going on for a long long time. With lynch mobs and the KKK all the way through to these idiotic "Proud Boys".

There's a whole museum dedicated to the victims of DOMESTIC terrorism - https://museumandmemorial.eji.org/

... yet efforts that have been made to have something as simple as a national anti-lynching law, have fallen on deaf ears.

The US has failed to pass anti-lynching laws 240 times. This is all of them.

By Amanda Shendruk in United StatesJuly 10, 2018

The US Congress has failed to enact anti-lynching legislation at least 240 times. Now, more than 100 years since the first attempt, senators Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, and Tim Scott are hoping to right this historic wrong, and make lynching a federal hate crime.

https://qz.com/1322702/the-us-has-tried-to-pass-anti-lynching-laws-240-times-and-failed-every-single-time/

The ridiculous narrow interpretation of "terrorism" is part of the problem. If you send pipe bombs (whether fake or real IEDs) or bio-hazards (or just baby powder) through the mail or light crosses on lawns, hang black dolls from trees, or tweet out nonsense about "low IQ" and "enemy of the people" to cause fear and intimidation, THAT is "terrorism".

[regnaD kciN]

6. More to the point, if a few had gone off...

...and, say, a handful of famous people (including an ex-President or two) had been killed, you just know 45 would have used the opportunity to declare a state of emergency (that would conveniently never come to an end) and suspend civil liberties “for the duration.”

[GulfCoast66]

7. How do you declare a State of Emergency in the US?

These is no law allowing for it. Nor is these even a procedure for carrying it out.

And how exactly does one suspend civil liberties? I guarantee you my local police force, Sheriff department, state police and national guard would play no role in limiting anyone’s civil liberties if the president ordered it. There is no federal police force like the Gendarmerie in France.

We need to stop with these silly fantasies about some kind of military crack down in the US. We have enough real problems to deal with.