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There's a belief, out there, that the older you get, the more conservative you become (Original Post) Siwsan Oct 2018 OP
It's about 180 degrees Sherman A1 Oct 2018 #1
Yep....👍🏼 spanone Oct 2018 #16
Me too! Va Lefty Oct 2018 #27
Me too! luvtheGWN Oct 2018 #28
Me too! RoBear Oct 2018 #34
As am I. GoCubsGo Oct 2018 #41
So am I.. mountain grammy Oct 2018 #44
Same here! True Blue American Oct 2018 #55
Yes sir gilligan Oct 2018 #57
I took a test True Blue American Oct 2018 #60
That gilligan Oct 2018 #85
Should have known. True Blue American Oct 2018 #89
me too Kurt V. Oct 2018 #69
Ditto, for sure! Totally Tunsie Oct 2018 #88
Because conservatives are driving their cars into people, liberals live shorter lives ck4829 Oct 2018 #2
I believe the opposite. greymattermom Oct 2018 #3
Agree. Sorta like "reality has a liberal bias". The more "reality" we've experienced, Atticus Oct 2018 #8
That's how I think, too, but I've seen the opposite in so many of my contemporaries Siwsan Oct 2018 #12
Funny you should True Blue American Oct 2018 #59
Great post, and I think it's so true. I've gotten more liberal as I've gotten older. nt raccoon Oct 2018 #77
Me too. MicaelS Oct 2018 #87
I think I've become more liberal Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #4
that's a very good point Brainstormy Oct 2018 #10
I'm in my 70s TruckFump Oct 2018 #5
I'm in my 60's and have been pretty liberal, since high school Siwsan Oct 2018 #14
Me too Freddie Oct 2018 #25
Exactly. TruckFump Oct 2018 #82
My 91yo mom 2naSalit Oct 2018 #6
I watched my 87-year old mother switch from R to D over the past few years Maeve Oct 2018 #7
This makes me smile! Siwsan Oct 2018 #17
Yeah for your Mother.:) True Blue American Oct 2018 #61
I am waaay more conservative MaryMagdaline Oct 2018 #9
Brilliant! Siwsan Oct 2018 #18
Aw thanks MaryMagdaline Oct 2018 #20
Love it! pazzyanne Oct 2018 #47
I used to say that I was fiscally conservative Lithos Oct 2018 #67
Statistically it is true, yes, older people are more conservative Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #11
Yes. Mariana Oct 2018 #26
Agreed. While it may not be true in all cases, the stats show that it is a thing. Caliman73 Oct 2018 #86
At 48 I am so much more liberal than my 18 year old self. Buckeyeblue Oct 2018 #13
Me too! MaryMagdaline Oct 2018 #19
GIVE ME LIBERALALITY democratisphere Oct 2018 #15
It was the opposite for me lunamagica Oct 2018 #21
I wonder if the threats to Social Security and Medicare/aid will upend this "trend" Siwsan Oct 2018 #23
Probably not. Mariana Oct 2018 #29
there was a great quote on here years ago, it went something like this... Javaman Oct 2018 #22
In today's world, you can reverse those first two Siwsan Oct 2018 #24
Me Too! bluestateboomer Oct 2018 #30
Growing younger by the day, am I. Polly Hennessey Oct 2018 #31
My parents are waaaay more liberal now than in the past obamanut2012 Oct 2018 #32
I think it's the opposite. Oldermore liberal. Greybnk48 Oct 2018 #33
Not me PJMcK Oct 2018 #35
I give this post 68 kicks. I'm sure the trolls won't figure out what I mean Augiedog Oct 2018 #36
Me too riverbendviewgal Oct 2018 #37
I used to say I was a republican because of my family lancelyons Oct 2018 #38
I love learning about other DUers Siwsan Oct 2018 #43
I've certainly gotten more liberal MontanaMama Oct 2018 #39
Yeah, me too. Fountain of youth here. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2018 #40
Actually, I am a bit conservative... Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #42
I'm much more liberal socially than I used to be. llmart Oct 2018 #50
I could have been a bit more specific... Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #51
Right there with you, Siwsan! pazzyanne Oct 2018 #45
I'm 53 and have been pretty liberal most of my life geardaddy Oct 2018 #46
I'm staying the same, but the Republicans have become so extreme spooky3 Oct 2018 #48
I've become more liberal as the years fly by. sarge43 Oct 2018 #49
Hell, I'm almost 72 skip fox Oct 2018 #52
And being conservative True Blue American Oct 2018 #65
I have a few positions that could be described Codeine Oct 2018 #53
Been progressive since a teen Lucca2 Oct 2018 #54
Total bullshit. SergeStorms Oct 2018 #56
I know people that followed that exact trend, so it's not total B.S. Siwsan Oct 2018 #63
I get more liberal by the day! Blue_playwright Oct 2018 #58
Another homegirl Oct 2018 #62
I can't stop the aging process Lithos Oct 2018 #64
My Dad used to say 'You can't help aging, but you don't ever have to get old.' Siwsan Oct 2018 #66
Smart man Lithos Oct 2018 #68
Forever young!!!!!!!!!! CelticWinter Oct 2018 #70
Not me. The older I get, the more liberal I become. sinkingfeeling Oct 2018 #71
I guess that applies to me as well. Nitram Oct 2018 #72
I'm 70 and I'm more liberal than ever. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2018 #73
I've always been a liberal - even as a child NewJeffCT Oct 2018 #74
Stealing this! green917 Oct 2018 #75
I don't think I could be any more liberal!! hostalover Oct 2018 #76
It all depends on whether a person continues to mature in terms of ... Martin Eden Oct 2018 #78
Great observation Siwsan Oct 2018 #79
I don't think we change so much as we just sammythecat Oct 2018 #80
fuck that nonsense. my ancient friends and I are not only more liberal, more progressive, some niyad Oct 2018 #81
Part of that is due to the devolution of the right ... Martin Eden Oct 2018 #83
Quite the opoosite! Dread Pirate Roberts Oct 2018 #84

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
28. Me too!
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:47 AM
Oct 2018

And all my friends -- men and women -- are saying the same thing. Not that we were conservative when younger, but we're now more inclined to "live and let live". Maybe it's because we baby boomers managed to do a lot of "experimenting" and had new tools such as the birth control pill to see us through some anxiety-ridden years (!)

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
55. Same here!
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:03 AM
Oct 2018

More and more Democratic by the day. If I live to be 100 and they ask me why,I will tell them I owe it all to being a conscientious, caring, loving Democrat

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
60. I took a test
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:12 AM
Oct 2018

When I was first on the computer.I was close to Ghandi. Now, I think I am sitting in his lap.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
2. Because conservatives are driving their cars into people, liberals live shorter lives
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 08:51 AM
Oct 2018

I've become even more left wing with age.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
3. I believe the opposite.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 08:53 AM
Oct 2018

The older you get the more likely it is that you have seen things that no one could have predicted, that are just not people's fault, like accidents, illnesses, economic downturns, job losses. YOU have gotten that horrible call that everyone dreads. So, in my mind, the older you get, the more liberal you become.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
8. Agree. Sorta like "reality has a liberal bias". The more "reality" we've experienced,
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 08:59 AM
Oct 2018

the more liberal we become.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
12. That's how I think, too, but I've seen the opposite in so many of my contemporaries
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:02 AM
Oct 2018

Many of my high school friends and former co-workers moved way to the right, as time went on. My Mom, who was pretty conservative to begin with, became radically far right in the last years of her life. Same with her sisters. They seemed to form the attitude that THEY succeeded, so everyone else should be able to, also.

Didn't make sense to me but then I am the family loony liberal.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
59. Funny you should
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:09 AM
Oct 2018

Post that. I wrote a long history of what we went through to get the things the younger people take for granted. I have watched Republicans tear apart the fabric we built slowly but surely.

I ended my email with that is why I will always be a Democrat

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
87. Me too.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 07:26 PM
Oct 2018

I was an arrogant, sellfish asshole when I was younger. I swallowed the Libertarian koolaid by the gallon.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
4. I think I've become more liberal
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 08:54 AM
Oct 2018

Then again I may have stayed the same and conservatives have moved so far right, I just look more liberal.

Brainstormy

(2,380 posts)
10. that's a very good point
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:01 AM
Oct 2018

we've gone so far right, or backwards, on much that seemed we could take for granted in the 60's, it's easy to look liberal

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
14. I'm in my 60's and have been pretty liberal, since high school
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:03 AM
Oct 2018

The big difference is, I used to be able to consider the other side and find some common ground. That's pretty much ancient history, now.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
25. Me too
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:39 AM
Oct 2018

I’m 62 and no longer have an open mind to the other side. My brother (65) used to be a “social liberal fiscal conservative” but has seen the light. But we had a good background, our parents were teachers, union supporters and very blue. Dad voted for Obama at age 90.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
7. I watched my 87-year old mother switch from R to D over the past few years
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 08:58 AM
Oct 2018

And her younger sister has become increasingly liberal, appalled by the hatred that has grown like weeds among the right.

People can learn, unless they turn off their brains.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
17. This makes me smile!
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:22 AM
Oct 2018

I had just the opposite experience with my mom. I tell myself it was the approaching Alzheimer's that sent her so far into that mind set but she was pretty right wing, even before that. Just not hateful right wing.

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
9. I am waaay more conservative
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:00 AM
Oct 2018

Conserve democracy
Conserve Medicaid
Conserve Medicare
Conserve social security
Conserve free speech.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
67. I used to say that I was fiscally conservative
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:27 AM
Oct 2018

Because it supporting things such as Human rights, Democracy, Pro-Choice, Education, Healthcare and the Environment always is better for the economy and my pocket book when viewed in the long term.

Doing the right thing is financially sound advice.

L-

Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
11. Statistically it is true, yes, older people are more conservative
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:01 AM
Oct 2018

than younger people.
That why Dems push so hard for younger voter turnout.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
26. Yes.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:42 AM
Oct 2018

The majority of people over 45 who voted in 2016 cast their ballots for Trump. That's just a fact.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
86. Agreed. While it may not be true in all cases, the stats show that it is a thing.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 07:25 PM
Oct 2018

Some of the research says that it is aging related, that openness to new experiences and information declines with age, that our tolerance for ambiguity diminishes.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mr-personality/201410/why-are-older-people-more-conservative

Others see the trend but aren't sure why exactly.

https://theconversation.com/hard-evidence-do-we-become-more-conservative-with-age-47910

And an interesting point of view, that poor people tend to be more liberal but do not survive and so decrease the number of liberal older people. (not super sure about this).

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/05/poor-people-often-dont-survive-to-become-seniors-who-vote.html

I have noticed anecdotally in myself, that the music I grew up with is WAY better than the stuff on the radio right now, although I have to say Kendrick Lamar is as good as any of the rap icons of the 80's and 90's. My parents felt the same way about the rap, rock, R&B that I listened to as opposed to the music of their time.

This doesn't mean too much in the way of conservatism v. liberalism but it does show that we tend to value our formative experiences more than new experiences as we get older.

I think that if you maintain your empathy for others and value the community at large than there is a way better than average chance that you will maintain your liberal ideals.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
23. I wonder if the threats to Social Security and Medicare/aid will upend this "trend"
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:36 AM
Oct 2018

I can't imagine people who depend on the 'social safety nets' ever supporting the people who are trying to yank them away and give the money to the already filthy rich. If they do, they may have a terminal case of cognitive dissonance.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
29. Probably not.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:48 AM
Oct 2018

I think most current recipients really don't believe their benefits will be affected, and in this they are probably right. The right wingers among them don't care about anyone else.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
22. there was a great quote on here years ago, it went something like this...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:36 AM
Oct 2018

as a youth, I was conservative

as an adult, I was liberal

as an oldster, I'm a bomb throwing anarchist.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
24. In today's world, you can reverse those first two
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:38 AM
Oct 2018

In the trump* universe, there does seem to be a serious de-evolution going on with their thinking.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
33. I think it's the opposite. Oldermore liberal.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:55 AM
Oct 2018

At least in my crowd. I do know some very bitter old people my age who have blamed almost all, if not all, of their bad choices and failures on what was done "to" them by city, state and federal laws and regulations. Nothing's their fault.

First off, CONSERVATIVES NO LONGER EXIST!

These people are either the current radical Trumpian right, or something else. but they're not liberal. They're pissed at the world, tantruming assholes that some call "Libertarian" whatever that is (no coherent definition). You know, the "I hate the gubmint, but give me Medicare, S.S. and food stamps!" crowd. And I "ain't following the laws!"

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
35. Not me
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 10:06 AM
Oct 2018

I've always been a Democrat. I'm 60 and as I've gotten older, I've gotten more and more liberal.

So I'm with you, Siwsan. It's great to feel young!

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
38. I used to say I was a republican because of my family
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 10:13 AM
Oct 2018

I am 54. I used to say I was republican because my family was.

I remember when rush limburger first started blabbing back in the 90s. I was amazed at all the things he had about how bad the government was and nobody was covering those things...

I have never voted republican. i didnt vote until 2012.

My father was hooked on Fox News... I watched..then after awhile of constant negative stuff about Obama and My father getting more and more angry.. I started digging into what Fox would say.

I was astonished by what I found. Fox News was highly misleading and was telling this group of people (their audience) some highly inaccurate and hate filled content.

I found this was in general the approach of the GOP (probably caused by Fox News and the like).

54 and pure democrat today and believe that Fox News, Limburger and the like have done more to destroy America than any thing else.

sorry for the long blab

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
43. I love learning about other DUers
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 10:19 AM
Oct 2018

We may not put faces on our posts, but we do put our personalities and experiences into them, and that is the best way to acquaint ourselves with each other.

MontanaMama

(23,319 posts)
39. I've certainly gotten more liberal
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 10:14 AM
Oct 2018

and I’m 53...my parents died young but they got WAY more liberal before they left the planet. Even my republican husband (yeah...I know ) has eased up on his bullshit as the years have gone by....for which I will take credit. BTW, he voted a straight Dem ticket last week. 😳

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
42. Actually, I am a bit conservative...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 10:18 AM
Oct 2018

and if there were any real "conservative" Repubs on the ballots, I'd consider voting for them.

Repubs have gone way beyond conservative to reactionary to downright fascistic. So, for now I'll continue to vote Dem.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
50. I'm much more liberal socially than I used to be.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 10:41 AM
Oct 2018

I just voted to legalize marijuana and I don't think I would have done that in my younger years. However, I do tend a bit toward conservative when it comes to the economy and money. I'm 69.

I just hate that we have to have these labels to categorize people. I think most people have a bit of both in them, except for the very far right wingnuts.

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
51. I could have been a bit more specific...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 10:47 AM
Oct 2018

I'm socially 'liberal' in that I don't want to live in some theocratic hellhole. I strongly support women's rights and healthcare and vote accordingly. Religious "freedom" does not include the freedom to force one's beliefs on others through government coercion. In early America, school lessons were often from the Bible because the Bible was one book that almost every home had. That's no longer true.

I'm fiscally conservative, in that yes, I think programs should be paid for and for that, we need a reasonable tax structure. If I ever got rich, I like to think I would be happy to pay reasonable taxes.

geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
46. I'm 53 and have been pretty liberal most of my life
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 10:34 AM
Oct 2018

but I get more liberal the older I get. I think the big thing is that I've become more adult about taking responsibility. I think that's what liberals do best - they take responsibility for themselves and how they treat other people.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
48. I'm staying the same, but the Republicans have become so extreme
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 10:40 AM
Oct 2018

That now my label has changed to “liberal” even though I still think I’m “moderate.”

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
65. And being conservative
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:17 AM
Oct 2018

About your finances should make you more Democratic by the day because we gain with Democrats in office!

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
53. I have a few positions that could be described
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 10:50 AM
Oct 2018

as being in line with those of some conservatives (I strongly support nuclear energy, ferinstance) but if anything I have on the whole grown much, MUCH more progressive as I’ve aged. At this rate I’ll be a doctrinaire Marxist within a decade.

Lucca2

(63 posts)
54. Been progressive since a teen
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:02 AM
Oct 2018

and I first became aware of political issues like war, income equality, and feminism. I am even more outspoken as an older woman. I wonder where that idea of creeping conservatism comes from? Research seems to show our politics is affected by the way we think and that rarely changes.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
56. Total bullshit.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:06 AM
Oct 2018

I started voting 50+ years ago as a tree hugging liberal and I haven't moved an iota to the right since. I was the product of a totally Republican family in a totally Republican town as well. Let's just say I was looked at with just a hint of disdain back in those days. And I being the progeny of a steadfast Republican politician as well. I was viewed as a turd in a punch bowl where I came from. I loved every minute of it, because I knew I was right, and history has proved me correct.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
63. I know people that followed that exact trend, so it's not total B.S.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:15 AM
Oct 2018

Perhaps it is something that some people believe is true, so that's the direction they take. I do know that some of the ones I've seen go that way were never deep thinkers, in the first place.

My family is mostly made up of conservatives from all across the spectrum. My mother, who is on the FAR FAR right side told me, one of the few raging liberals, that I had no ability to think for myself. All I could do was laugh.

I have noticed that a number of my cousins, who have always been pretty apolitical, are now moving far more to the liberal side of things.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
64. I can't stop the aging process
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:17 AM
Oct 2018

But I certainly do not have to grow up...

I've gotten more progressive as I've gotten older - seen too much of the world to retreat back into a shell.

L-

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
66. My Dad used to say 'You can't help aging, but you don't ever have to get old.'
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:20 AM
Oct 2018

So now that is my mantra.

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
72. I guess that applies to me as well.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:40 AM
Oct 2018

The Republican meme that people are Democrats in their idealistic youth and become Republicans when they gain maturity, responsibility, and experience is total hogwash. I was actually a more conservative in my youth (although nothing like today's Trumpists), and have moved farther left with each passing year. I'll probably die a total Bolshevick.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
73. I'm 70 and I'm more liberal than ever.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:41 AM
Oct 2018

What has astonished me reading through this thread is how many who are self-identified liberals did not vote until a decade or two after they were eligible.

Perhaps the real issue is that those who are going to vote liberal (meaning for Democrats) are a bit slower to take up voting. Not sure.

I was in high school when I first heard the quote that goes something like if you're not liberal when young you have no heart, if not conservative when older you have no head and I thought it was remarkably stupid even when I was 17. My opinion has not changed at all.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
74. I've always been a liberal - even as a child
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:42 AM
Oct 2018

I remember when I was 10-11 years old and there was a big push for the ERA and thinking, "how could anybody oppose wanting people (women) to have equal rights"?

However, I used to be for a total ban on all guns, except for police and the military. Now, I'm more for strict gun control and a ban on assault style weapons, or weapons that could easily be converted to assault weapons. So, in that way, I have become more conservative.

At that rate, I'll be a centrist somewhere around the turn of the next century.

Martin Eden

(12,869 posts)
78. It all depends on whether a person continues to mature in terms of ...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:48 PM
Oct 2018

… learning, keeping an open mind, and having empathy for other human beings.

I've grown more liberal as I've discarded juvenile, uninformed, and prejudiced notions.

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
80. I don't think we change so much as we just
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:22 PM
Oct 2018

become more what we really are. Conservatives more conservative, liberals more liberal. Middle of the road, wishywashy types become even more useless and annoying.

niyad

(113,323 posts)
81. fuck that nonsense. my ancient friends and I are not only more liberal, more progressive, some
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:48 PM
Oct 2018

of us are quite radical.

Martin Eden

(12,869 posts)
83. Part of that is due to the devolution of the right ...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 06:44 PM
Oct 2018

... further into the abyss of post-truth ignorance and racism. THEY have become radicalized, dangerous, and easily misled down the path towards fascism.

We have become more strident and more focused in our liberalism because the threat has grown significantly.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,896 posts)
84. Quite the opoosite!
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 06:58 PM
Oct 2018

The older I get, the more different kinds of people I encounter, the more different experiences I have, the more obstacles I come across, the more I learn, the more liberal and tolerant I get. If you stop growing and if you stop caring other people and the world, you might as well be dead.

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