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More van photos from someone who saw suspect in traffic well before bombs sent. (Original Post) fleur-de-lisa Oct 2018 OP
Hillary target omg Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 2018 #1
Yeah, the crosshairs brought chills down my spine. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2018 #6
Call him DownriverDem Oct 2018 #65
MAGABOMBER.. Cha Oct 2018 #75
And one Obama right below it. Bleacher Creature Oct 2018 #12
someone needs to notify all of the liberals depictted lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #31
Cool. The photos are larger at Twitter, MineralMan Oct 2018 #2
The van says "I am Donald Trump and I approve this message" Renew Deal Oct 2018 #3
Look at all the ammosexual gun targets! Maru Kitteh Oct 2018 #4
"fucking headcase" JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #46
right? nt Maru Kitteh Oct 2018 #50
Uhhh ... check off the people targeted with crosshairs ... eppur_se_muova Oct 2018 #5
It looks like " Florids " man was a Trump Humper after all. world wide wally Oct 2018 #7
Great karma! pazzyanne Oct 2018 #60
Wow what a nut job TNLib Oct 2018 #8
"Native Americans for Trump? fleur-de-lisa Oct 2018 #9
Nativism lunasun Oct 2018 #26
Seminole radical noodle Oct 2018 #51
And Gillum obsessed . Glad he was found now. TY for link lunasun Oct 2018 #56
The Seminole say he is not one of them. He made it up. yardwork Oct 2018 #77
The acct's now been suspended...nt 2naSalit Oct 2018 #82
A bit of irony here, too. calimary Oct 2018 #66
That caught my eye, too. geardaddy Oct 2018 #44
Only a real nut job would decorate their van like that. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #10
Lol: This van looks like what Steve Bannon would turn into if he was a Transformer demmiblue Oct 2018 #11
+1 rogue emissary Oct 2018 #23
Van enid602 Oct 2018 #68
😹 Meowmee Oct 2018 #70
It's too clean! yardwork Oct 2018 #80
Here is a larger version..... tableturner Oct 2018 #13
Hillary in Gun Sights...'CNN sucks' Michael Moore in Gun Sights...trump nut spanone Oct 2018 #17
"Native Americans for Trump" is somewhat unexpected n/t KayF Oct 2018 #14
In this guy's mind a "native American" is probably a white person The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #20
No, he claims to be Seminole jberryhill Oct 2018 #53
Then he's really messed up. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #55
Shocker! jberryhill Oct 2018 #57
The Seminole say he is not one of them. Just another fantasy of his. yardwork Oct 2018 #81
It's a shot at Warren Blue_Adept Oct 2018 #37
No, he claims to be Seminole jberryhill Oct 2018 #54
CNN sucks, blah blah. Echos of Trump. Glimmer of Hope Oct 2018 #15
There's a CNN Sucks decal and pictures of Hillary and Michael Moore The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #16
Yep. CNN sucks dalton99a Oct 2018 #18
Larger versions from the tweet: Denzil_DC Oct 2018 #19
I'm on a tiny phone. Cracklin Charlie Oct 2018 #33
Sorry, the pics are cropped as shown. Denzil_DC Oct 2018 #34
The specualtion is that it is a motorized scooter. n/t demmiblue Oct 2018 #36
Lol: This van looks like how Jeanine Pirro's show sounds. demmiblue Oct 2018 #21
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2018 #59
Good replies on twitter + TY for that tweet lunasun Oct 2018 #62
I always stay far away from cars like this & I'm not even curious as to what lunasun Oct 2018 #22
In hell, you get two choices to cross through the gates. That van or this one. Liberal Veteran Oct 2018 #27
I love candy and would already be dead and like sick humor so lunasun Oct 2018 #28
That ends the "false flag" narrative once and for all jmowreader Oct 2018 #24
People on Twitter are stating that some of the images of Shitler fleur-de-lisa Oct 2018 #25
I noticed that. Same kind of images as the video that appeared on DU on election night 2016. yardwork Oct 2018 #79
Ha ha, I wish I had your optimism Tarc Oct 2018 #64
So they admit this is what Cha Oct 2018 #76
The Alt-Right has their own variation of the Kubler-Ross grief stages Tarc Oct 2018 #83
This isn't the same van. Real one has only two large windows on the side. LAS14 Oct 2018 #29
Left side (no doors) vs. Right side (doors) demmiblue Oct 2018 #32
It looks like the same van, though some of the decals are different fishwax Oct 2018 #40
Oh my: I am Donald Trump & I approve this message. demmiblue Oct 2018 #30
Someone tweeted a pic of this van in Response to Trumps 'gop get out and vote' tweet today...... riversedge Oct 2018 #35
Changed my mind JHB Oct 2018 #38
Maybe there is more than one, and the decals keep from seeing woodsprite Oct 2018 #48
No, it's the same one. Someone else took photos of it last year... JHB Oct 2018 #69
He seems nice. cagefreesoylentgreen Oct 2018 #39
These are two different vans. look at this pic............. riversedge Oct 2018 #41
They are the same van. demmiblue Oct 2018 #45
Looks like some of the stickers have been stickered over ... knightmaar Oct 2018 #58
ok. I put this together riversedge Oct 2018 #67
The left and right sides of the van have different windows. yardwork Oct 2018 #78
A current view from the other side: demmiblue Oct 2018 #42
How will Trump explain this guy away... ificandream Oct 2018 #43
I just hope the SOB hasn't voted yet RightiswrongTn Oct 2018 #47
MAGA - Bomber Edition flying-skeleton Oct 2018 #49
I don't think there's a cell around with enough padding needed for this nutjob. GoCubsGo Oct 2018 #52
Flying his freak flag high, this one NBachers Oct 2018 #61
Notice the people targetted in photo on left. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2018 #63
MAGA - Bomber Edition flying-skeleton Oct 2018 #71
The Nazi Ice Cream Truck Blue Owl Oct 2018 #72
I am assuming that dumpsters are 100% behind this miscreant ailsagirl Oct 2018 #73
Not to be totally obvious, but...what was the first clue here? libdem4life Oct 2018 #74

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
31. someone needs to notify all of the liberals depictted
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:13 PM
Oct 2018

in his "crosshairs" montage and make sure they have any packages screened (hell, detonated )

Michael Moore for example.

There is a front window sticker with a guy in a sombrero and a bunch of writing... I can't make out what the writing says... I assume it is some sort of racist rant.

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
2. Cool. The photos are larger at Twitter,
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:40 AM
Oct 2018

and you can click on them to see an even better view. Thanks to this person for snapping these photos. It IS the same van, too.

eppur_se_muova

(36,263 posts)
5. Uhhh ... check off the people targeted with crosshairs ...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:43 AM
Oct 2018

how many got bombs ? Hope those who didn't (that we know of yet) get extra protection ...

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
60. Great karma!
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:36 PM
Oct 2018

Now all the Repugs that have been saying it is a Democratic plot will apologize. Sorry! I know they won't.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
26. Nativism
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:06 PM
Oct 2018

Used as a form of nationalism and is often identified with xenophobia and long ago in this country with anti-Catholic sentiment . Perhaps now more anti any immigrant and non christians probably

Or is NA ?

yardwork

(61,620 posts)
77. The Seminole say he is not one of them. He made it up.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:06 AM
Oct 2018

He claims to be Seminole but they say he is not.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
66. A bit of irony here, too.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:27 PM
Oct 2018

Your comment mentions "anti any immigrant and non christians probably." The real irony here is that these people who have worked up a hatred for anyone not sporting the label "Christian" - are the ULTIMATE NON-Christians. "Christians" is the term to describe followers of Christ.

Known world-wide as Jesus Christ.

You know, that Guy with the beard and long hair Who lived and died a long time ago and earned the nickname "Prince of Peace"?

You know, that Guy with the beard and long hair Who lived and died a long time ago Who delivered public speeches teaching "love God and love thy neighbor as thyself" and "turn the other cheek" and "whatever you do to the least of My brethren" and stuff like that?

Proof positive that these "nativists" and "nationalists" and whatever other bullshit label they claim for themselves are ANYTHING BUT "Christian."


The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,704 posts)
20. In this guy's mind a "native American" is probably a white person
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:48 AM
Oct 2018

and not a member of any indigenous NA tribe.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,704 posts)
16. There's a CNN Sucks decal and pictures of Hillary and Michael Moore
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:46 AM
Oct 2018

with gun sights over their faces. This middle-aged Trump-humping white guy is a stereotypical MAGAt.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
33. I'm on a tiny phone.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:15 PM
Oct 2018

I think these pic were from a random motorist who had encountered this van.

Can you make out if the van is carrying/trailering something on the back? It seems like an odd-shaped thing is behind the van. Very odd-shaped.

Again, old eyes, tiny phone. Sorry.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
22. I always stay far away from cars like this & I'm not even curious as to what
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 11:59 AM
Oct 2018

all the signs say . To me it's just a big DANGER back away sign .
They are often itching to start shit imo to prove their racist rants .
Nope will not get close
I take trumpers at their word!!

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
24. That ends the "false flag" narrative once and for all
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:03 PM
Oct 2018

Not only would no liberal buy all those stickers, we don’t even know the store that sells them.

Very strange collection: serious wingnuttery on most of the windows, and then there’s ACC sports.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
25. People on Twitter are stating that some of the images of Shitler
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:05 PM
Oct 2018

that are plastered all over the van are straight out of Russian propaganda sites. Especially the ones depicting him as a hero. Like the one of Trump on a tank.

yardwork

(61,620 posts)
79. I noticed that. Same kind of images as the video that appeared on DU on election night 2016.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:15 AM
Oct 2018

You can find that video on YouTube if you search on "DU hacked." It's a mishmash of fascist white supremacist imagery - lots of Eastern European dictators featured - with Trump portrayed as a savior with long blonde hair, dressed as Napoleon, riding on an eagle holding the head of a Muslim-looking man. The soundtrack is some metal band screeching about how someday a savior will come.

The art is so bad it would be laughable but it looks like 1930s propaganda so, not funny.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
64. Ha ha, I wish I had your optimism
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:46 PM
Oct 2018

I know someone in-person, who today is saying "it looks too perfect, like someone went out of his way to paint himself as the perfect stereotype of a Trump supporter".

You can't reason with these types.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
76. So they admit this is what
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 09:47 AM
Oct 2018

a typical trump supporter is?

THE MAGABOMBER

That wasn't photoshopped, either.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
83. The Alt-Right has their own variation of the Kubler-Ross grief stages
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:33 AM
Oct 2018

1. Denial ( "False Flag!" )
2. Deflection ( "It was probably a disgruntled Green Partier!" )
3. Downplay ( "There wasn't an actual threat, just fake." )
4. Whataboutism ("Antifa does this stuff too!" )
5. No True Scotsman ( "Not representative of all Trump supporters!" )
6. Rationalization ( "Well, they caught him and n one was hurt. Time to move on." )

He's hit the first 4, so Monday a.m. we'll see the rest.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
29. This isn't the same van. Real one has only two large windows on the side.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:11 PM
Oct 2018
https://boingboing.net/2018/10/26/florida-man-arrested-in-packag.html

But it looks like there's a thing going to cover one's van with right wing stickers.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
40. It looks like the same van, though some of the decals are different
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:28 PM
Oct 2018

The picture that you've shown is of the driver's side, while the other pictures show the passenger's side, which accounts for the difference in windows.

If you look at the rear window in each photo, you can see that the top two-thirds on the left window and the top one-third on the right window are exactly the same. The bottom parts of those windows, though, have different decals between the two photos. It could just be that he put on fresh decals between the traffic photo and today's arrest.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
38. Changed my mind
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:24 PM
Oct 2018

Original text of post, before edit:

I don't think this is the same van: back window stickers are different
Obviously the same (deranged) sense of style, though.


I was trying to photoshop side-by-side images of the back windows of the van in the news report and the photos on Twitter taken last month. There are a couple of things different, which is why I originally thought they weren't the same, but too many things are in the same position. I think he just put up some different stickers.

On edit, see below:
Left: From news video today of the suspects van; Right: from the photos on Twitter taken last year

woodsprite

(11,915 posts)
48. Maybe there is more than one, and the decals keep from seeing
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:13 PM
Oct 2018

what's going on inside. Maybe they should be looking for that other van as well.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
69. No, it's the same one. Someone else took photos of it last year...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 04:45 PM
Oct 2018

...and put them up on Twitter, too.


This set shows the same side of the van that can be seen in the news helicopter video.

Again, some new stuff in the lower part of the rear window, but the rest is an exact match.



demmiblue

(36,853 posts)
45. They are the same van.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 12:57 PM
Oct 2018

Some stickers have been added/taken off (the pics in the OP are from April and taken from the right side), but it is the same van.

knightmaar

(748 posts)
58. Looks like some of the stickers have been stickered over ...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 01:29 PM
Oct 2018

But it looks like many of them match for position and shape.

Or are you seeing some part of the structure of the van that doesn't match?

riversedge

(70,225 posts)
67. ok. I put this together
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:43 PM
Oct 2018

sorry, I had to leave to work some.
The OP pic has 3 windows** at least they seem to be 3 to me.
I have to leave again for a while.


Pic from above OP**







This is the one I posted"





ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
73. I am assuming that dumpsters are 100% behind this miscreant
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 08:10 PM
Oct 2018

After all, if he's pro-dumdum, they're on his side no matter what

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
74. Not to be totally obvious, but...what was the first clue here?
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 09:30 PM
Oct 2018

Unfortunately, there is no law against this...until it erupts. Same is true with all kinds of abuse...not illegal until physically acted upon. After which, often times, it is too late. Put differently, there is no law against insanity...just the illegal acting out of it.

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