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THAT's going to leave a mark! (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2018 OP
K&R... spanone Oct 2018 #1
Haaha. That's funny "because you aren't a reliable source of what's going on in our country today." Bfd Oct 2018 #2
If Fox were to get the rights you can bet we'll never see the pictures again. Hugin Oct 2018 #3
Wait, they asked permission? durablend Oct 2018 #4
Yes, like the fucking grifters they represent, they offer nothing in exchange, except a mention. TheBlackAdder Oct 2018 #5
In fairness, that's a standard permission request; every other network does the same brooklynite Oct 2018 #7
Yep. I guess it doesn't hurt to ask first, to see if they can get it on the cheap before paying. TheBlackAdder Oct 2018 #12
I would include language limiting their right if I responded. LiberalFighter Oct 2018 #13
They asked... TwistOneUp Oct 2018 #16
Perfect Augiedog Oct 2018 #6
She and her husband should keep an eye out NastyRiffraff Oct 2018 #8
If they did, it would be a lawsuit waiting to happen... brooklynite Oct 2018 #9
I'll admit when I'm wrong... brooklynite Oct 2018 #19
can fox use it if they take the image from cnn or some other network JI7 Oct 2018 #33
She said yes to other news stations. irisblue Oct 2018 #10
Pic in question FakeNoose Oct 2018 #11
Hey! this is a different van than the one CNN got on video FakeNoose Oct 2018 #14
CNN's picture is of the driver's side of the van. Staph Oct 2018 #15
Nope. Right side and left side. MineralMan Oct 2018 #20
What I want to know is why wasn't this asshole ever ticketed for obstructed visibility . . . . ET Awful Oct 2018 #17
Well the Feds say that he has an arrest record FakeNoose Oct 2018 #18
There's all kinds of vehicle wraps that you can see out of OriginalGeek Oct 2018 #24
You don't need to have rear windows clear whopis01 Oct 2018 #29
I'm specifically referring to the passenger side window n/t ET Awful Oct 2018 #31
It didn't appear to obscure the side view mirror. n/t whopis01 Oct 2018 #32
Not perfectly legal in every state. I can tell you it wouldn't fly in California or Mass ET Awful Oct 2018 #34
What I said was perfectly legal in every state was a panel van with no rear or read side windows. whopis01 Oct 2018 #35
Anyone who decoupages RW political crap all over their car windows is a nut case. YOHABLO Oct 2018 #21
Yes !!! Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #22
It just says "Link To Tweet" when I open nt Cetacea Oct 2018 #23
AP's release is based on them being a subscription service LTG Oct 2018 #25
thats awesome kaotikross Oct 2018 #26
Sorry haydukelives Oct 2018 #27
They probably hear that a lot. bitterross Oct 2018 #28
I'm confused. what's so special about this photo? libdem4life Oct 2018 #30
 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
2. Haaha. That's funny "because you aren't a reliable source of what's going on in our country today."
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 02:49 PM
Oct 2018

TheBlackAdder

(28,205 posts)
12. Yep. I guess it doesn't hurt to ask first, to see if they can get it on the cheap before paying.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 04:48 PM
Oct 2018

.

That AP one really sucks because they ask for licensing rights too, in perpetuity.

No other image firm agrees to that. Every image site has use, licensing and time limit constraints.

I'd like to see Getty's response to such a request.

.

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
16. They asked...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 05:52 PM
Oct 2018

And it never hurts to ask for a big sum and negotiate. Also, demand a cashier's check with a bill-of-sale so tomorrow they can't tell the bank, "we made a mistake, give it back".

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
8. She and her husband should keep an eye out
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 03:58 PM
Oct 2018

to make sure Fox doesn't use it anyway. I wouldn't put it past them, even after they were specifically told they couldn't.

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
9. If they did, it would be a lawsuit waiting to happen...
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 04:18 PM
Oct 2018

They publicly asked for permission.
They were publicly refused permission.
They used it anyway.


...and why would Fox want to promote the fact that this nut job has been driving around like this for a year?

JI7

(89,250 posts)
33. can fox use it if they take the image from cnn or some other network
Sun Oct 28, 2018, 09:51 PM
Oct 2018

that was given permission ?

FakeNoose

(32,641 posts)
11. Pic in question
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 04:44 PM
Oct 2018


... was taken on 11/1/17 when this "Magabomber" Sayoc made a meal delivery in this van.

FakeNoose

(32,641 posts)
14. Hey! this is a different van than the one CNN got on video
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 05:32 PM
Oct 2018

Here's the still photo from the video:



This is from the CNN tweet in which the perp's van is shown being towed and the tarpoline blew off.




Compare this with the photo posted by Lesley Abravanel, they are 2 different vans and the political posters are different.

ET Awful

(24,753 posts)
17. What I want to know is why wasn't this asshole ever ticketed for obstructed visibility . . . .
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 06:50 PM
Oct 2018

Doesn't Florida have laws against that?

FakeNoose

(32,641 posts)
18. Well the Feds say that he has an arrest record
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 06:55 PM
Oct 2018

... that's why his prints were already on file. I can't tell you what he was arrested for.

I agree that those window posters on his van are ridiculous.

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
29. You don't need to have rear windows clear
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:24 PM
Oct 2018

You just need the windshield and side mirrors visible and clear.

Think of a panel van. That has no windows on the side (other than driver and passenger) and no visible back window. Perfectly legal in every state.

ET Awful

(24,753 posts)
34. Not perfectly legal in every state. I can tell you it wouldn't fly in California or Mass
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 12:17 AM
Oct 2018

They'll ticket you for tint beyond a certain point in any window, they'll ticket you for any obscured view, etc. They can order removal of tint or obstruction and have your car towed if you don't comply.

For instance, California Vehicle Code states:

24002. (a) It is unlawful to operate any vehicle or combination of vehicles which is in an unsafe condition, or which is not safely loaded, and which presents an immediate safety hazard.

(b) It is unlawful to operate any vehicle or combination of vehicles which is not equipped as provided in this code.

Amended Ch. 696, Stats. 1992. Effective September 15, 1992.

26708. (a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any
object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied
upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

(2) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or
material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or
upon the vehicle which obstructs or reduces the driver's clear
view through the windshield or side windows.

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
35. What I said was perfectly legal in every state was a panel van with no rear or read side windows.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 01:19 PM
Oct 2018

I am sure a panel van as described is perfectly legal in California.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
21. Anyone who decoupages RW political crap all over their car windows is a nut case.
Fri Oct 26, 2018, 08:09 PM
Oct 2018

I want to run, hide, from the crazy but it's all around me. Anyone else feel like that?

LTG

(216 posts)
25. AP's release is based on them being a subscription service
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 03:55 AM
Oct 2018

AP provides stories, photos, video etc to subscribing papers, magazines, radio and television stations/networks. Fox, as an AP subscriber, receives content licensed to them by AP.

A number of times individuals have explicitly refused useage rights to one Fox producer while another obtains it from a licensing source, like AP, that had been given useage and licensing rights by the copyright owner.

The law is vague and will depend on a lot of factors beyond the request and explicit denial.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
28. They probably hear that a lot.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 12:56 PM
Oct 2018

I would feel sorry for those associate producers and interns who deal with this - but they knew where they were going to work. So - fuck 'em.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
30. I'm confused. what's so special about this photo?
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:29 PM
Oct 2018

We've seen it a million times...seems. Although I do like her retort.

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