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struggle4progress

(118,349 posts)
Sun Oct 28, 2018, 07:49 PM Oct 2018

How much responsibility does Trump bear for the synagogue shooting?

By Julia Ioffe
October 28 at 10:06 AM

In the hours after the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, President Trump’s allies were at pains to point out that Robert D. Bowers, the alleged shooter, was in fact anti-Trump. Never mind that the Bowers disliked Trump because he felt he was too soft on “the k--- infestation,” he wrote online, using a slur for Jews. “Trump is a globalist, not a nationalist,” Bowers wrote on one of his social media accounts. But to the president’s defenders, this was a hopeful moment, one they could use to separate Trump from the carnage at Tree of Life. There was an important difference between “a shooter who hates Trump,” wrote conservative writer David French, and the man who loved Trump who sent Trump’s critics all those pipe bombs. Conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt pointed out that anti-Semitism “transcends the left/right divide.” In these defenders’ minds, this absolves Trump of any guilt.

It doesn’t.

... During the campaign, he joked at a meeting of the Republican Jewish Coalition that it wouldn’t support him “because I don’t want your money.” A campaign-era tweet about Hillary Clinton superimposed a Star of David over dollar bills. He said the white-supremacist marchers at Charlottesville last year were “fine people.” After I published a profile of Trump’s third wife, Melania, that displeased her — and his supporters — the alt-right deluged me with anti-Semitic insults and imagery, culminating in clear death threats — such as an image of a Jew being shot execution-style or people ordering coffins in my name. When Trump was asked to condemn these attacks by his supporters, he said, “I don’t have a message” for them ...

... Trump’s tune has become a deafening roar. The closing ad of his campaign reprised the kind of anti-Semitic tropes that populated “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”: “It’s a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities,” Trump’s voice said, as pictures appeared of then-Federal Reserve Board Chair Janet Yellen (a Jew), billionaire progressive donor George Soros (a Jew) and then-Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein (also a Jew). The ad was called “Donald Trump’s Argument for America” ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/10/28/how-much-responsibility-does-trump-bear-synagogue-shooting-pittsburgh/?utm_term=.759cf0c5e6cb&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

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How much responsibility does Trump bear for the synagogue shooting? (Original Post) struggle4progress Oct 2018 OP
I don't know who said this but... nycbos Oct 2018 #1
and gallons of gasoline -n/t lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #2
Trump is the wind to a forest fire. Sneederbunk Oct 2018 #3
+100 sakabatou Oct 2018 #6
Perfect KentuckyWoman Oct 2018 #7
100% indirectly responsible. BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #4
Karma wise: 100%. marble falls Oct 2018 #5
100% DeminPennswoods Oct 2018 #8
A lot, as do NRA, trump supporters, gun-jumper, racists, bigots, etc. Hoyt Oct 2018 #9
Would the last few days have probably happened if a totally moderate, Stuart G Oct 2018 #10
Caravan. Invasion. Soros. Jews. Act. Zambero Oct 2018 #11
All of it.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2018 #12
Hitler didn't pull the trigger either. moondust Oct 2018 #13
All of it. MANSON didn't do the stabbing either. UTUSN Oct 2018 #14

nycbos

(6,038 posts)
1. I don't know who said this but...
Sun Oct 28, 2018, 07:51 PM
Oct 2018

... I think it fits "Trump might not have set the fire but he sure brought the matches."

Stuart G

(38,448 posts)
10. Would the last few days have probably happened if a totally moderate,
Sun Oct 28, 2018, 08:10 PM
Oct 2018

Republican been elected..Say Flake or someone else?...or a Democrat?...Of course we do not know,
but Trump has emboldened the fire in the right wing. He threw gasoline on the fire, encouraged the
hatred with his rhetoric. (in my opinion)

So in answer to the main question..100 percent

Zambero

(8,968 posts)
11. Caravan. Invasion. Soros. Jews. Act.
Sun Oct 28, 2018, 08:12 PM
Oct 2018

Not a whole lot of dots to connect with this one. Trump connected the first three, and the killer took it from there.

moondust

(20,006 posts)
13. Hitler didn't pull the trigger either.
Sun Oct 28, 2018, 08:24 PM
Oct 2018

I don't know enough of the historical details to know if Hitler himself ordered the attacks by the Brownshirts, Kristallnacht, etc., or if they took it upon themselves to carry them out assuming it was in their movement's interest and Hitler would approve.

Reminder: November 9-10 is the 80th anniversary of Kristallnacht.

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