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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:09 AM Oct 2018

Jon Stewart for the win!

President Trump has been able to appeal to journalists’ “own narcissism” by attacking them, says Jon Stewart. “They take it personally, and now he’s changed the conversation to, not that his policies are silly or not working … it’s all about the fight.”




I miss Jon Stewart
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zentrum

(9,865 posts)
2. On the nail.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:18 AM
Oct 2018

Trump is playing the media for the win. Shiny new toy distracts entire voter population from the dire things he's doing.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
3. Also, it's good for their ratings
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:21 AM
Oct 2018

Personal fights with the president brings in viewers. Think Jerry Springer on a much larger scale.

Augiedog

(2,548 posts)
5. Yeah, it would help if journalists would get their heads out if their asses and stop reacting to
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:36 AM
Oct 2018

trump and his Nazi minions as if they were legitimate. It’s time they just collectively call Sara Sanders a liar and quit accepting what she says as if it were some sort of rational alternate truth.

tavernier

(12,401 posts)
6. Trump is the husband who knows exactly how to lie to his wife
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:58 AM
Oct 2018

and is using same technique with America.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
8. Constructive criticism take on the interview....
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 11:02 AM
Oct 2018
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1057633977308143616.html
Going to THREAD on this.
Next item is a screen grab from the transcript.
There is a way out of the dysfunctional cycle between Trump and the press, that not only restores the core mission of the 4th Estate, but saves our democracy in the process.
Let's lay it out... /1

2/ Here's the transcript. Read @camanpour's last line.


Everyone can understand it. And democracy desperately needs journalists to rise above it.
Here's how:
STEP 1. Read up on Russian propaganda tactics & techniques. Understand that you are dealing w/a President...

3/...who is well-versed & possibly trained in them.

STEP 2. Realize that he is intentionally TROLLING & TRIGGERING you. You are taking bait. Not just to change a larger narrative, but bait that is specifically designed to DISMANTLE YOU. You are the target. (cont)

4/ Once you realize that, it's easier to see it and adjust.

STEP 3. Take note when you feel the physical effects of a trigger. You can FEEL the emotions triggered rise in the moment you're being psychologically triggered. Take a deep breath. Dismiss all thoughts about self...

5/ Then...
STEP 4. Use that trigger as a blinking red light for what he's trying to distract you away from. It is only one thing: Corruption.
FOLLOW THE MONEY.
When he is actively triggering you, it means you are over the target. You are right on top of a story...

6/...that he is extremely threatened by. Reinterpret the threats & hits from him about the "fake news - enemy of the people" as indicators that you are right on top of a story that presents a dire threat to him.
You are right on top of the whole enchilada.
In this context...

7/... He is NOT trying to use you to appeal to his base. STOP telling yourselves that. He has an entire far right media machine for that.
He is trying to get you OFF YOUR JOB. He is psychologically terrorizing YOU. Specifically. So...
What he's actually doing is telling you...

8/... (by terrorizing you), that you are ON THE TARGET. See it that way.
And when he is triggering you to get you away from his corruption...

STEP 5. Do not drop your line of inquiry to enter some fight over his lies. His lies are propaganda. Meant to distract. (cont)

9/ Do not use his semantics, like "caravan" or "nationalist". Those are pieces of propaganda, deployed at perilous moments TO HIM, in order to distract & hijack a narrative (see Step 1 above. this is why I'm asking you study up on it).
THERE IS A REASON HE IS DOING THIS.
So...

10/ STEP 6. Look at the most dangerous story to him personally at the moment when a new, or old, propaganda semantic is deployed - and PRESS HARDER on that story.
Dollars to doughnuts there is corrupt money-dealing underneath it.
I'll end this with a simple illustration...

11/
When was the last time you asked him a question about MbS?
- end -

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
14. I know! It follows in the vein of Lakoff
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 05:21 PM
Oct 2018

Yet we still see multiple threads a day up of regurgitating Twitler’s tweets

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,424 posts)
15. lots of 'look at trump!' to distract
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 02:21 AM
Nov 2018

Ridiculing Twitler should be a non-ending thing nationwide, but he certainly doesn't need to be in the spotlight all day, every day.

It's a chore to find the serious discussions some days.

homegirl

(1,434 posts)
9. "The power of the press
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 11:03 AM
Oct 2018

belongs to those who own one." -H.L. Menken

The press has the power to send Trump to Coventry. Stop hanging on his every word. Limit coverage to a once a day lisitng, no audio, no video, just a print black and white listing of White House and Oval Office statements and events.

The battle of the press briefings was lost when the representatives of the media failed to rise as one and leave the room, never to return, the first time he took a shot at the media.

After all, when the fascists control all parts of government the media is all we have.

VOTE!


Roland99

(53,342 posts)
10. They've become self victimizing. The need for ratings on a 24hr cycle
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 01:45 PM
Oct 2018

We don’t need 24hr news on multiple channels

We lived perfectly well for decades with print and regular tv

Punditry passes for journalism now.

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