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MSNBC chryon crawl--filings suggest that Mueller (Original Post) WhiteTara Oct 2018 OP
Why the chyron crawl and not a full throated story to haunt the gop Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #1
teasing the news hours? WhiteTara Oct 2018 #10
And,Winters Coming.... Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #11
Because there is almost no evidence behind the story lamsmy Nov 2018 #28
Who knows? PJMcK Nov 2018 #29
This could make quite a nice October Surprise Jersey Devil Oct 2018 #2
YES!!! AwakeAtLast Oct 2018 #22
Breaking: trump denies receiving subpoena and you know what that means NightWatcher Oct 2018 #3
Who would believe this pathological malaise Oct 2018 #6
The pathologically stupid (nt) Richard D Oct 2018 #14
Someone can just make up shit and lie over and over malaise Oct 2018 #15
Technically DT May Be Right Ccarmona Oct 2018 #19
he did. Cha Nov 2018 #25
Happy Halloween! Tactical Peek Oct 2018 #4
So good! ZZenith Nov 2018 #23
Not to mention weirded out by our president predicament. Tactical Peek Nov 2018 #24
Brilliant Tactical Peek! Mahalo! Cha Nov 2018 #27
Could be a pathetic Trump ploy C_U_L8R Oct 2018 #5
Full article ...... Roland99 Oct 2018 #7
Thanks for sussing out the whole article WhiteTara Oct 2018 #9
Could be a better Christmas present for Americans than the so-called "Christmas present".... George II Oct 2018 #16
"It all fits." lindysalsagal Oct 2018 #20
kick for visibility triron Oct 2018 #8
Maybe it was Pence who was subpoenaed or Don Junior. n/t pnwmom Oct 2018 #12
Maybe Pence, but hasn't Don Jr. already testified once or twice already? George II Oct 2018 #17
I think Jr. has been "interviewed" BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #18
Before a grand jury? I didn't know that. n/t pnwmom Oct 2018 #21
this may be a red herring. WhiteTara Oct 2018 #13
Norman Goldman talked to another lawyer rusty fender Nov 2018 #26

lamsmy

(155 posts)
28. Because there is almost no evidence behind the story
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 03:23 AM
Nov 2018

See emptywheel on twitter for a pretty thorough debunking of this story. SOMEBODY is fighting a supeona, but it is highly unlikely it is Trump.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
2. This could make quite a nice October Surprise
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 05:01 PM
Oct 2018

Just in time for the weekend, figure the story will break by tomorrow (if confirmed). It will surely boost Trump's approval numbers.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
3. Breaking: trump denies receiving subpoena and you know what that means
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 05:03 PM
Oct 2018
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/414163-trump-says-he-has-not-received-subpoena-from-mueller


said Wednesday he has not received a subpoena from special counsel Robert Mueller as part of the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

"No," Trump told reporters on the South Lawn when asked if he had received a subpoena from Mueller. The president was departing the White House en route to a campaign rally in Florida.

The specter of a presidential subpoena was revived earlier Wednesday after Politico published a piece from former federal prosecutor and former White House general counsel Nelson Cunningham, who suggested that Mueller has in recent weeks been locked in a battle with the White House over an effort to subpoena the president and get him to appear before a grand jury.

malaise

(269,158 posts)
15. Someone can just make up shit and lie over and over
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 07:23 PM
Oct 2018

And you are that stupid that you buy it.
I guess my signature line is accurate.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
19. Technically DT May Be Right
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 07:47 PM
Oct 2018

The apparent court filings, while sealed, are only open for conjecture. The legal minds I’ve read seem to think that his lawyers are fighting a subpoena, so until there’s a final ruling, he probably hasn’t been actually served.

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
5. Could be a pathetic Trump ploy
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 05:06 PM
Oct 2018

to make his base feel sorry for him. That’s a GOTV strategy only a malignant narcissist would cook up. One thing that’s pretty sure is... Mueller doesn’t leak.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
7. Full article ......
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 05:07 PM
Oct 2018
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/31/has-robert-mueller-subpoenaed-trump-222060
But now, thanks to Politico’s reporting (backed up by the simple gumshoe move of sitting in the clerk’s office waiting to see who walks in and requests what file), we might know what Mueller has been up to: Since mid-August, he may have been locked in proceedings with Trump and his lawyers over a grand jury subpoena—in secret litigation that could tell us by December whether the president will testify before Mueller’s grand jury.

The evidence lies in obscure docket entries at the clerk’s office for the D.C. Circuit. Thanks to Politico’s Josh Gerstein and Darren Samuelsohn, we know that on August 16 (the day after Giuliani said he was almost finished with his memorandum, remember), a sealed grand jury case was initiated in the D.C. federal district court before Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell. We know that on September 19, Howell issued a ruling and five days later one of the parties appealed to the D.C. Circuit. And, thanks to Politico’s reporting, we know that the special counsel’s office is involved (because the reporter overheard a conversation in the clerk’s office). We can further deduce that the special counsel prevailed in the district court and that the presumptive grand jury witness has frantically appealed that order and sought special treatment from the judges of the D.C. Circuit—often referred to as the “second-most important court in the land.”

Nothing about the docket sheets, however, discloses the identity of the witness. Politico asked many of the known attorneys for Mueller witnesses—including Jay Sekulow, another Trump lawyer—and each one denied knowledge of the identity of the witness. (What, of course, would we expect a lawyer to say when asked about a proceeding the court has ordered sealed?)

But for those of us who have been appellate lawyers, the brief docket entries tell a story. Here’s what we can glean:

WhiteTara

(29,722 posts)
9. Thanks for sussing out the whole article
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 05:29 PM
Oct 2018

December 14th. Could be an early Christmas present for the world that lights the candle of peace.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Could be a better Christmas present for Americans than the so-called "Christmas present"....
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 07:31 PM
Oct 2018

....that trump announced last year, the non-tax cut tax cut for working Americans.

Daddy trump's got a lump of coal with his name on it!

lindysalsagal

(20,733 posts)
20. "It all fits."
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 08:02 PM
Oct 2018

(Shudder). This article appears to be legitimate, without scurrilous sensationalism. It also fits with frump's behavior.

BumRushDaShow

(129,476 posts)
18. I think Jr. has been "interviewed"
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 07:43 PM
Oct 2018

but I don't think he has testified in front of a Grand Jury. Pence earlier claimed he wasn't even asked to be interviewed or something along that line that I saw posted on DU recently.

Of course the other one hanging out there who has been oft-mentioned and who has whined about probably being targeted for indictment, is Roger Stone (and his buddy Credico already did his time in front of the Grand Jury).

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
26. Norman Goldman talked to another lawyer
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 02:25 AM
Nov 2018

on his show about this. They both surmised that if Trumpass is the one who got subpoenaed, then he isn’t Mueller’s target; they also surmised that if this is correct, then Mueller has concluded that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

How disappointed will I be if Mueller doesn’t indict Trumpass

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