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People, we won! (Original Post) Cary Nov 2018 OP
THe opposing party in a mid-term always "wins." Usually by more. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #1
You are wrong, it is great news. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #17
The size of the win was a little disappointing... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #26
Remember, my friend, we had a gerrymander to deal with...how you been? Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #85
It's not good news that Democrats control the people's house workinclasszero Nov 2018 #30
The House cannot fix everything. TNNurse Nov 2018 #33
But it CAN put up guardrails. It CAN blunt the rubber stamp calimary Nov 2018 #37
No, but don't forget - spending bills originate in the House. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #57
Thank you, Ocelot. Polly Hennessey Nov 2018 #64
Thank you. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #78
The next time Dumpster bleats about another tax break for the Koch bros or a 50 trillion dollar workinclasszero Nov 2018 #82
It can stop Trump cold in regards to bad legislation. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #95
It is great news mcar Nov 2018 #39
thats in a normal world.. we are no longer have anything normal. samnsara Nov 2018 #71
Often but not always. MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #73
What then, would 'good news' be? LanternWaste Nov 2018 #109
Right on. We won. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #2
I agree. We made a great deal of progress last night. Onward! Vinca Nov 2018 #3
Yes, a win RandiFan1290 Nov 2018 #4
I remember 2006 treestar Nov 2018 #5
Those were good times derby378 Nov 2018 #10
YES There is a damn Huge BLUE WAVE! Cha Nov 2018 #6
Cha Hi...my guy Cordray in Ohio whom I worked for lost, but I am still thrilled because we won Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #9
I am sooooo fucking glad Walker is gone, but what about the unions? derby378 Nov 2018 #11
I agree. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #18
Good on you, Demsrule.. Thank You Cha Nov 2018 #12
Executive orders can be done away with by the next president. So since he can't get legislation Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #19
Thanks.. I was wondering about Cha Nov 2018 #22
Trump is a monster...and we now have some power to block him. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #23
Yes, it changes so much! Cha Nov 2018 #24
The world looks different today. I can finally take a deep breath if you know what I mean. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #96
So Much Different! HUGE HOPE! Cha Nov 2018 #111
Thank God we got the house with Sessions being fired and all...perfect timing. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #114
Oh and this from Lawrence Tribe on Adam Schiff.. Cha Nov 2018 #13
I love Adam Schiff! Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #14
MORE!... 2 Native American Women elected to Congress! Cha Nov 2018 #16
That is so awesome...and I believe a person of the Muslim faith won in Michigan! Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #20
Two Muslim women won...Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ilhan Omar of Minnesota! Tanuki Nov 2018 #46
Nice Cha! This is such an excellent tribute to Schiff! R B Garr Nov 2018 #90
Yes, it is a brilliant tribute Cha Nov 2018 #91
And in Kansas! Right? nt LAS14 Nov 2018 #84
Yes Laura Kelly beat the SOB Kobach. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #94
It's like they are addicted to negativity Cary Nov 2018 #34
So many women and POC coming to Congress! mcar Nov 2018 #40
Yes! Dems! Cha Nov 2018 #41
Yes! Cary Nov 2018 #59
We won!!! I am very happy. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #7
Doesn't feel like it philf99 Nov 2018 #8
I live in Ohio and Sherrod Brown won easily...Cuyahoga county (Cleveland) is blue... Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #15
I also live in Ohio blueinredohio Nov 2018 #45
I don't think so...if the governor does that...he will face a huge loss in two years. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #97
Ohio not trending well infinite_wisdom Nov 2018 #63
The race was called by 8:00 for Sherrod Brown...and it went twice for Obama so I don't agree with Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #98
Agree Cleveland is a very diverse area infinite_wisdom Nov 2018 #106
Cortland where I came from (hubs got a new job) went for Obama twice and Hillary in 16 Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #115
Sounds like SM bots are out with this meme but this was a bigger wave than 2010 just didn't... uponit7771 Nov 2018 #25
I'm sorry. I don't feel it yet. In It to Win It Nov 2018 #21
Florida was a HUGE disappointment, but I prefer to see the glass as half full... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #28
I agree...we have a check on the worst president of my lifetime. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #99
Bill Nelson hasn't lost yet. jimmyzvoice Nov 2018 #31
Yes! Think people who say to stop being so down need Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #43
Gotta wait SIX LOOONNGGGG Years! In It to Win It Nov 2018 #54
So true. At least if you lose a house seat or governorship Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #65
Yes we did! whathehell Nov 2018 #27
Enough of people telling people to stop being negative! Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #47
No, not nearly enough of that! whathehell Nov 2018 #79
The next move to fire me up, watoos Nov 2018 #29
Yes. New blood new energy. Doesnt mean old Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #49
Yes, but this isn't remotely what we were sold. MadDAsHell Nov 2018 #32
You conned yourself. Kaleva Nov 2018 #48
Not going backwards in the Senate 2 years into the worst Presidency ever is unrealistic? MadDAsHell Nov 2018 #67
You still conned yourself Kaleva Nov 2018 #89
Throwing what you can against the wall to see if it stick, eh? LanternWaste Nov 2018 #110
I think personally I have learned my lesson. Don't build false Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #53
Oh please.. Nothing in politics is guaranteed whathehell Nov 2018 #81
We beat a gerrymander to take back the house...we held on with 28 seats to Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #100
If we can't come here to vent, where can we go? It's not being negative to seek comfort, allgood33 Nov 2018 #35
Oh please Cary Nov 2018 #51
I agree...we are celebrating a country changing win. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #101
Exactly right!!! Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #55
Jeebus, how much "comfort" does a victory need? whathehell Nov 2018 #83
We overcame a gerrymander to win back the house...would have been bigger if there Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #102
Big scary whale, Mr Drumph. Coming to get you. lambchopp59 Nov 2018 #36
I'm in FL and I agree mcar Nov 2018 #38
Let the GOP feel negative for a change IronLionZion Nov 2018 #42
Yes, please.. whathehell Nov 2018 #86
Yep, I agree The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #44
Good points jcgoldie Nov 2018 #52
It's hard not to be negative when you live in FL lunamagica Nov 2018 #50
You live to fight another day Cary Nov 2018 #56
DeTrumpis terrifies me lunamagica Nov 2018 #58
Do you not suppose that is what they want? Cary Nov 2018 #62
You are not negative. It is natural! See zero purpose Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #60
IKR lunamagica Nov 2018 #61
Nation agrees. S&P stock index up 1 % today. Not the crash tRump predicted egoistically. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2018 #66
Hard to see the good from the overwhelmingly bad news in my state, FL. lark Nov 2018 #68
yep you are right. when we started this thing our goal was to take back the house and we did! samnsara Nov 2018 #69
Yes! Feels pretty good for a change. Texin Nov 2018 #70
Dems ahead in SEVEN races yet to be called. nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2018 #72
I feel good about last night. Some people don't, and that's okay too. fishwax Nov 2018 #74
It's okay for them, I guess, whathehell Nov 2018 #88
Wish I could be saying this here in Florida SARFTS Nov 2018 #75
I hope change will come . Yes Florida was a big disappointment & im thinking of FL EC votes 2020 lunasun Nov 2018 #105
Welcome to DU, SARFTS! calimary Nov 2018 #108
I agree Sunsky Nov 2018 #76
How'd we do in state legislatures nationwide? That will help a lot if we gained. I can't brewens Nov 2018 #77
good news mercuryblues Nov 2018 #104
YES! Aristus Nov 2018 #80
Definitely something to build on... Wounded Bear Nov 2018 #87
Hank Liberman Bayard Nov 2018 #92
I'm a little upset about my state but fuck it. In It to Win It Nov 2018 #93
Yes...we can do this. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #103
We did. We can breathe. We can make it to 2020. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #107
Feels like a loss in Florida Awsi Dooger Nov 2018 #112
"Whhhat did we win"?... lame54 Nov 2018 #113
The ability to shut down Trump and Republicans in terms of legislation. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #116

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
1. THe opposing party in a mid-term always "wins." Usually by more.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:30 AM
Nov 2018

I'm happy about it, but I'm a realist. This was not good news. They better figure out what's wrong, before the 2020 election.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
26. The size of the win was a little disappointing...
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:45 AM
Nov 2018

but a win is a win. Now we can start passing legislation in the House representing the progressive ideals we believe in... and start the investigations of this administration that will lead to the Little Dick-tator's impeachment.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
85. Remember, my friend, we had a gerrymander to deal with...how you been?
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 12:11 PM
Nov 2018

Been fighting a Sewer issue so not around as much as usual...we got a 'whoosh' last week so all is well hehe.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
30. It's not good news that Democrats control the people's house
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:58 AM
Nov 2018

and Trump's GOP dictatorship is destroyed???

calimary

(81,304 posts)
37. But it CAN put up guardrails. It CAN blunt the rubber stamp
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:22 AM
Nov 2018

in Congress. GOOD-BYE to one-party republi-CON rule! Nothing legislative will move because you’ve got a divided Congress now. No more rubber stamping. No more completely ignoring the miscreant’s misdeeds in OUR White House. NO MORE giving that SOB a free pass with no checks and balances.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,721 posts)
57. No, but don't forget - spending bills originate in the House.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:41 AM
Nov 2018

The GOP can't repeal the ACA; it's safe now. Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security are also safe. The GOP can't screw around with the debt ceiling. The House can't fix everything but it can prevent a whole lot of damage.

Polly Hennessey

(6,798 posts)
64. Thank you, Ocelot.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:49 AM
Nov 2018

Perfect words. Total victory seldom is achieved with one battle. I am a little more at ease now that we have the House. Also, we have added more women and they are fighters. 😃

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
78. Thank you.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:55 AM
Nov 2018

Like so many I am not completely clear on which body does what at that national level. I know that getting the House back is important, but in reality it's huge. Maybe even better than getting the Senate but not the House.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
82. The next time Dumpster bleats about another tax break for the Koch bros or a 50 trillion dollar
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 12:06 PM
Nov 2018

useless border wall we can all laugh in his fat ugly face!

Nancy ain't playin that game!

MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
73. Often but not always.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:35 AM
Nov 2018

For example, 1986, 1990, 1998, and 2002, were not large swings for the opposing party, and 98 and 02 swung for the party in power. We were hoping for 1994 or 2010 in reverse, but only got about half. We did outperform what the Rs got in 2014.

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
3. I agree. We made a great deal of progress last night. Onward!
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:35 AM
Nov 2018

I know many of us - including me - are sad about Beto and Gillum, but they would have been long shots under the best of circumstances. And here's something to think about. Imagine Trump and Pence are impeached. Guess who would be POTUS??? LOL.

RandiFan1290

(6,236 posts)
4. Yes, a win
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:37 AM
Nov 2018

Now we can expect the trolls and their media pals to downplay it by claiming it was inevitable.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
10. Those were good times
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:47 AM
Nov 2018

I think we were slowly sapped by an overall lack of progress. Even Obama's achievements have been largely erased. It's enough to put any Democrat in a perpetually bad mood.

But Democratic candidates have trouble learning from history, and we don't have time for that nonsense anymore.

So I am slowly finding happiness again with friends, gainful employment, and a new love in my life. And there is still a chance I will come roaring back into the fray someday.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
9. Cha Hi...my guy Cordray in Ohio whom I worked for lost, but I am still thrilled because we won
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:47 AM
Nov 2018

governorships in Michigan (woman candidates won in Michigan) and in Wisconsin ...f'ing Walker is gone. Sherrod Brown won easily in Ohio so that is a plus. We have a check on Trump...the GOP can't do shit without the house...and if Trump does his EA's when he is gone so are they. I wanted the Senate but knew it was a long shot.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
11. I am sooooo fucking glad Walker is gone, but what about the unions?
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:49 AM
Nov 2018

It's time to start undoing the damage he inflicted on unions, including the revocation of right-to-work.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
12. Good on you, Demsrule.. Thank You
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:51 AM
Nov 2018

for all you did for Cordray!

That sounds so good.. the gop can't do shit without Our House.

What do you mean?.. "and if Trump does his EA's when he is gone so are they"

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
19. Executive orders can be done away with by the next president. So since he can't get legislation
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:11 AM
Nov 2018

through Congress...it is his only way of getting his way...but up in smoke when the Democrats take the presidency in 20 I believe. People say the economy is going well. It is not. I see the weakening in autos caused by Trump's tariffs...layoffs coming. I say this sadly. But Lordstown GM may close and Parma GM is endangered as well...so the idea that Trump's policies are working is bullshit and by 20 sadly this will be apparent.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
22. Thanks.. I was wondering about
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:17 AM
Nov 2018

his EOs.. thinking that's what he'd do since he can't get anything passed now.

yeah, trump is a maniac.. he'll lie about anything.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
14. I love Adam Schiff!
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:59 AM
Nov 2018

There was much good news last night...sure it was disappointing in Florida and Georgia but not unexpected.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
20. That is so awesome...and I believe a person of the Muslim faith won in Michigan!
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:12 AM
Nov 2018

So many women headed to Congress too.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
90. Nice Cha! This is such an excellent tribute to Schiff!
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 12:34 PM
Nov 2018

We are in good hands now. Maybe Schiff for 2020–he’s that good.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
91. Yes, it is a brilliant tribute
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 12:37 PM
Nov 2018

to Adam Schiff from Lawrence Tribe.

I'm so glad we are able to discuss things like this now.. it's almost surreal. Whiplash!

RB

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
7. We won!!! I am very happy.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:42 AM
Nov 2018

As for those not happy, there is a check on Trump. What did you expect? The Senate was always a reach...and Trump remains popular in red states. We won governorships...very sad about Ohio but hey Walker is gone and we have a Democrat in office in Michigan and Pennsylvania...a good night.

philf99

(238 posts)
8. Doesn't feel like it
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:44 AM
Nov 2018

Very depressed especially here in Ohio.

Last night showed the message of hate and division is resonating in large parts of the country.

Because of that, I see Donald Trump winning reelection but losing the popular vote again.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
15. I live in Ohio and Sherrod Brown won easily...Cuyahoga county (Cleveland) is blue...
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:00 AM
Nov 2018

There is good news even in Ohio. Trumbull back to blue.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
45. I also live in Ohio
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:33 AM
Nov 2018

A very red part of Ohio but I have to say every race was contested even though democrats lost at least they ran. Usually there's no competition. So I still have hope. The sad part is I believe Medicaid expansion is through.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
97. I don't think so...if the governor does that...he will face a huge loss in two years.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 12:59 PM
Nov 2018

Health care is an issue that plays on both sides...and Governor Crypt keeper claims he will protect pre-existing ....so let's see what happens.

 

infinite_wisdom

(73 posts)
63. Ohio not trending well
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:44 AM
Nov 2018

There was some good news in Ohio with Sherrod Brown winning, but even that race was much closer than it should have been.

On the state level, Republicans swept. There were 2 open Supreme Court seats and the D's took both of those which was surprising and good.

But once again, the Republicans have a death grip on state government here with no checks, no balances. Super majorities in the House and the Senate and a cookie cutter boring Republican governor . They will do whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want. Again. With legislation emailed to them by ALEC.

Ohio remains one of the more white states in the country and the population is aging and population growth in stagnant. For whatever reason, the Hispanic population has not immigrated to Ohio like it has much of the rest of the country - only 2% of Ohioans are Hispanic. It is becoming ossified and stale. It pains me to say that because I live here, but there is nothing exciting happening in Ohio these days. It's just a boring place full of "get off my lawn" old folks. We have become like the surrounding states of W.Virginia, Kentucky and Indiana. Just go to work, pay your bills, and STFU.

Living here my entire life of 52 years now, my sense is Ohio is no longer a purple state. It has become a reliable red state, no longer a battle ground state. Democrats are going to have to focus on Florida, North Carolina or maybe even Georgia now as a swing state because Ohio is lost for the foreseeable future.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
98. The race was called by 8:00 for Sherrod Brown...and it went twice for Obama so I don't agree with
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:02 PM
Nov 2018

you. I live in Cleveland a very diverse area. Democrats are competitive. And I would not count us out.

 

infinite_wisdom

(73 posts)
106. Agree Cleveland is a very diverse area
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:16 PM
Nov 2018

I live in Columbus which is also fairly diverse.

But then there is the rest of the state, which is becoming like rural Alabama politically speaking. There is also the white and aging population.

The Republicans have controlled state government in Ohio now for a long time and I don't see that changing. Ohio had Ted Strickland - who was a very moderate Democrat working with a Republican Statehouse. Ever since then, everything has been run by Republicans.

Ohio went for Trump by 8% in 2016. Not even close like the other Midwestern states. As an Ohioan, this was shocking to me but it woke me up. Keep fighting, but the demographics here are trending away from us in a severe way.

Something could happen, like a huge scandal like with the Taft administration or a recession. But even in that case, I think the Democrats in Ohio would only win one election cycle and then it would go back to being red 2 to 4 years later. It is very difficult to get progressives to win in a state that is as old and white as Ohio.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
115. Cortland where I came from (hubs got a new job) went for Obama twice and Hillary in 16
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:11 PM
Nov 2018

small city in Trumbull. We may very well lose Lordstown and Parma because of trump (GM plants). And there are high tax areas. Wait until the tax cut becomes a reality. I work to spread the Democrat message...pretty much in every election and in between.

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
25. Sounds like SM bots are out with this meme but this was a bigger wave than 2010 just didn't...
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:40 AM
Nov 2018

... win the senate seats because once in every 40 year senate seat availability

In It to Win It

(8,253 posts)
21. I'm sorry. I don't feel it yet.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:14 AM
Nov 2018

My state results wiped out any happiness I had for winning the House.

Lost Bill Nelson in the Senate.
Gained a 2nd Donald Trump for governor.

I need a moment.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
28. Florida was a HUGE disappointment, but I prefer to see the glass as half full...
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:55 AM
Nov 2018

Our Party also made HUGE gains in selling the progressive message to a larger audience of voters. It was never going to be easy. But, it's progress, so let's rejoice and CELEBRATE by startin to pass legislation consistent with our values... and let's start REALLY investigating all of the corruption of this administration, which, undoubtedly, will lead to the Dotard's impeachment.

jimmyzvoice

(159 posts)
31. Bill Nelson hasn't lost yet.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:04 AM
Nov 2018

According to CNN Rick Scott is only ahead by .4%. A recount is triggered in Florida if a victory is less than .5%. And, at this point, Senator Nelson has not conceded.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
43. Yes! Think people who say to stop being so down need
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:31 AM
Nov 2018

To give us a freaking minute to grieve. We will bounce back...but need time. Having people vote back in the most hated man in dc instead of Beto. And having Gillum lose... devastating. I am convinced we HAVE to get control of Florida governorship to get fair voting there. Thankfully prop 4 passed.

In It to Win It

(8,253 posts)
54. Gotta wait SIX LOOONNGGGG Years!
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:40 AM
Nov 2018

The state is so gerrymandered that it will be near impossible to gain the legislature. Our only shot at fixing this fuckery is winning the governorship or suing the state.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
65. So true. At least if you lose a house seat or governorship
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:54 AM
Nov 2018

It's right around the corner to try again. Texas had a chance to transform itself and move toward the light. When again will we have such a perfect candidate though.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
29. The next move to fire me up,
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:55 AM
Nov 2018

Install a tough majority leader and majority whip.

Nancy is tough as nails and one of our best Speakers ever, but she needs new blood helping her. I suggest someone from the Black caucus for one of those positions.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
32. Yes, but this isn't remotely what we were sold.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:04 AM
Nov 2018

Democratic leadership described a WAVE that would be record-breaking in proportions. It wasn’t even record breaking in the last decade.

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
48. You conned yourself.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:35 AM
Nov 2018

It's human to convince oneself of something that supports one's world view and dismiss that which doesn't. I don't recall Senator Schumer ever saying we were going to take the Senate.

"Chuck Schumer: Democrats winning the Senate 'a very hard task because the geography is against us...

“I’d love to see the Senate go blue, but it looks like a very hard task because the geography is against us," Schumer, D-N.Y., said during an interview with John Catsimatidis on AM 970 in New York. "There are 25 Democrats up for re-election, eight Republicans, and many of the Democrats come from states where Donald Trump won by more than 20 points." '"

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/chuck-schumer-democrats-winning-the-senate-in-2018-a-very-hard-task-because-the-geography-is-against-us

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
67. Not going backwards in the Senate 2 years into the worst Presidency ever is unrealistic?
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:58 AM
Nov 2018

We have lost thousands of local, state and national seats over the last 10 years. And there have been ready excuses after every single one of them. And the highest priority post-loss has always seemed to be who NOT to blame and why we can’t possibly change tactics or strategies.

Why do Con wins, such as 2010, result in flipping something like 60 House and 6 Senate seats, and then doing it again 4 and 6 years later, and we have to settle for small splashes every 10-12 years?

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
89. You still conned yourself
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 12:28 PM
Nov 2018

Your comment:

"Democratic leadership described a WAVE that would be record-breaking in proportions."

Where is your evidence that supports your above claim?

Here's a comment made by Nancy Pelosi, one of our party leaders:

" House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi expressed total confidence that the Democrats will be the majority party in the House after Tuesday's midterm elections.

A reporter asked the California Democrat at a Tuesday news conference if she was "100 percent sure of victory."

"Yes, I am," she replied. She cited the energy and mobilization of volunteers working to get out the vote on Election Day as evidence of the "the quality of our candidates."

"I feel confident that we will win, it's just a question of what the size of the victory is," she said. "

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/11/06/pelosi-certain-democrats-win-house/1905514002/

I dodn't see anywhere in the above where Nancy claims the victory will be record breaking.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
110. Throwing what you can against the wall to see if it stick, eh?
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 03:45 PM
Nov 2018

I get it... a LOT of that's going around before getting flushed.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
53. I think personally I have learned my lesson. Don't build false
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:39 AM
Nov 2018

Expectations. All night they kept saying Beto was ahead and I foolishly got my hopes up.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
100. We beat a gerrymander to take back the house...we held on with 28 seats to
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:08 PM
Nov 2018

defend in the Senate. ...10 in red states where Trump won by double digits...that is a blue wave... We now have a check on that SOB Trump. We saved the country and the world from fascism in my opinion.

 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
35. If we can't come here to vent, where can we go? It's not being negative to seek comfort,
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:09 AM
Nov 2018

give comfort. WE will rise.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
51. Oh please
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:36 AM
Nov 2018

I held my tongue here as all manner of conspiracy theories brewed.

We need to cut that crap out.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
83. Jeebus, how much "comfort" does a victory need?
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 12:08 PM
Nov 2018

.So we didn't win as big as we wanted -- No need to make the Perfect the enemy of the Good.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
102. We overcame a gerrymander to win back the house...would have been bigger if there
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:11 PM
Nov 2018

was no gerrymander.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
38. I'm in FL and I agree
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:23 AM
Nov 2018

We won back the house and 7 governorships. The Senate was never truly in reach.

We won!

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
42. Let the GOP feel negative for a change
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:27 AM
Nov 2018

we should celebrate that the other side finally has a check on their abusive power.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
44. Yep, I agree
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:33 AM
Nov 2018

With the House we deny the Nazis money, which is their true power
With the Blue Wall we deny them the White House in 2020.
Sure, the judiciary is sunk, sure the Senate will remain insane, but with no money they are limited. With the Blue Wall there will be proper election security.
And let's not forget KANSAS!

Dems won HUGE last night.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
52. Good points
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:36 AM
Nov 2018

But the effects of the senate especially judicial appointments will be longer lasting... and more alarming to me is finding a path to beat Trump in 2020 when large red swaths of the country have affirmed yesterday that nothing he does or says is too racist or ignorant for them.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
60. You are not negative. It is natural! See zero purpose
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:42 AM
Nov 2018

In people saying bounce back on minute one. Only adds to grief.

lark

(23,103 posts)
68. Hard to see the good from the overwhelmingly bad news in my state, FL.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:09 AM
Nov 2018

I am so fucking sick of always losing by 1% or less, so sick of criminal Scott and now fuckhead DeSantis and we are stuck with these total racist stealing criminals for the next 4 (Scott 6) years. I just can't stand it!!!

Bright spots - Democrats control the House now - excellent results there, drumpf can't repeal ACA or slash Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security - I feel so much safer now. We picked up the governorships of 7 states (should have been 9). Duval County turned blue, all our calls and canvassing worked, yay.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
69. yep you are right. when we started this thing our goal was to take back the house and we did!
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:10 AM
Nov 2018

...all the other great races ..altho we didnt win some....elevated many new talented folks to the National level and we have some great candidates ready to go forward..already with a fan base!

Texin

(2,596 posts)
70. Yes! Feels pretty good for a change.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:11 AM
Nov 2018

Sad about the Dem Senators who were voted out, but 2020 looks better for their overall chances. I don't know how much effectiveness having the house is going to be. I expect the Dems can put some brakes on tRump to the extent they can, but we sure can't afford to lose another SCOTUS seat for at least a couple of years. Hang in there, Ginsburg. And, please, please, please, don't let anyone else retire (I"m looking at YOU Thomas!)

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
74. I feel good about last night. Some people don't, and that's okay too.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:37 AM
Nov 2018

Whether you're excited about last night (and the are good reasons to be) or disapointed about last night (and the are reasons for that, too, especially if you live in one of those states that slipped away) that's okay. The only thing that matters is that we come out of this ready to fight for two more years. For some of our democratic brethren, that mihht mean a bit of time licking some wounds. NBD.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
88. It's okay for them, I guess,
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 12:19 PM
Nov 2018

Given that, for some, every silver lining has a cloud.

The rest of us would like to enjoy our victory and let the Other Side feel bad for a change. Just sayin.

 

SARFTS

(8 posts)
75. Wish I could be saying this here in Florida
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:43 AM
Nov 2018

I really wish Andrew Gillum would have kicked DeSantis ass here in Florida. Believe me folks, racism is alive and well here in "God's waiting room." In my circles I would say 80-85% are hardcore , Kool Aide swallowing, low information voters. Tried to explain "Cross Check" to a group of 5 vets who in no way would even come close to giving it an intelligent consideration. Racism is alive and well in these circles. Fox News on from sun up to closing. I am at a point where I don't give a rats ass anymore, if you come at me with some stupid remark I'll knock you out of the water with facts, whether you accept them or not. I'm using the slogan coined by Jimmy Dore: I'm a "Aggressive Progressive" and proud of it. 70 years old, Vietnam Vet, and still out there canvasing and ringing door bells. A Rolling Stone gathers no moss!!!! DAMN I WISH WE WON HERE!

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
105. I hope change will come . Yes Florida was a big disappointment & im thinking of FL EC votes 2020
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:18 PM
Nov 2018

Do what you can patriot

Resist

calimary

(81,304 posts)
108. Welcome to DU, SARFTS!
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 03:30 PM
Nov 2018

I wish we'd have won there, too. Really liked Andrew Gillum! AND Stacy Abrams.

But overall, we did well! And Kris "Mr. Voter Suppression" Kobach got sent to the back of the room! That alone is worth the price of admission. Not that it'll stop him or change his mind about this horrible, undemocratic, and thoroughly unAmerican dumb-ass voter-restrictive ideas of his. But maybe it'll slow him down a little. ANYTHING that throws a monkey wrench into his works is good for ALL THE REST OF US.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
76. I agree
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:43 AM
Nov 2018

We were not going to win everything, last night was a huge step in the right direction.
My fellow Floridians the battle isn't over, it has just begun. We are going to win against all of he "-isms" that are holding us back in FL.

brewens

(13,590 posts)
77. How'd we do in state legislatures nationwide? That will help a lot if we gained. I can't
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:48 AM
Nov 2018

tell yet how we did in Idaho. I see some Dems won, but I'm not familiar with any districts not in my area. We seem to have broken even around here.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
104. good news
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:18 PM
Nov 2018

State legislatures:

New Hampshire: Dems won control of the house and Senate, with an R gov.

Colorado: Won the Senate, kept control of House and won the Governorship with Jared Polis

Connecticut: Dem's regained the Seanate and picked up more seats for the House. Governpr's race to close to call

Maine Turned the state blue. Picked up the Senate, retained the House and won the governorship

New York: gained control in the Senate. From what I understand many of the D's who voted with the R's are gone. And there are
enough of solid D's elected to overcome the D's that vote with the Rs

Minnesota house flipped to blue

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211384737

Bayard

(22,075 posts)
92. Hank Liberman
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 12:39 PM
Nov 2018

That was the Dem candidate for the 2nd district of KY that I phone banked for on Sunday. He lost 30 to 60.

BUT....I feel much better with getting the House back. I feel some hope again instead of the black despair after the Kavenaugh mess. I had to check out of DU for awhile after that......

Now we will at least have some checks and balances instead of tRump's craziness running wild. There's some sunshine.

In It to Win It

(8,253 posts)
93. I'm a little upset about my state but fuck it.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 12:48 PM
Nov 2018

The House 2018! 2020, THE SENATE!!!

FORWARD TOGETHER! The 2020 map is terrible for republicans. WE WILL TAKE IT!

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
112. Feels like a loss in Florida
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 05:57 PM
Nov 2018

Others in this thread have posted the same thing. I hoped I would awake after a few hours sleep and feel better. Nope...much worse.

This is going to linger for a long time. Next week I have to go to conservative Naples for 5 days and I known darn well I'll see MAGA hats and old white people at the LPGA golf tournament, so content that Scott and especially DeSantis won.

I don't want to help my aunt, who is a Republican and voted for DeSantis and Scott. I am supposed to clean her rugs but don't want to go over there.

That's what people don't understand. There are so many attachments. It's hardly watching the returns one night and nothing else.

Ron DeSantis didn't even know why he wanted to be governor yet this state elected him.

I read posts here all the time from Floridians working on campaigns and GOTV. Much appreciated. I hope it doesn't come across as criticism when I emphasize how much better Democratic outreach was in Clark County, NV when I lived there. Nevada is so easy to prioritize and decipher along outreach terms because 70% of the votes are Clark County. GOTV sophistication advantage seems to go back and forth between the parties, based on following this since 1992 for betting purposes. Right now Republicans are somewhat ahead in Florida just like Democrats have figured out Nevada.

This is a loss. Sorry, but every time I pause and reflect it comes back to that. Nelson was bad enough but I could have lived with that outcome and the House, as long as Gillum won.

Gillum's loss meant it was a loss period

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