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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy are white rural voters so supercharged nowadays?
Almost all of our unexpected losses this year are the result of rural white voters voting in massive numbers that exceeded the numbers from highly motivated Democrats. By my estimate, these white, rural voters cost us these races:
GA Gov
FL Gov
FL Sen
IA Gov
IN Sen
MO Sen
ND Sen
OH Gov
TN Gov
TN Sen
TX Gov
TX Sen
Numerous House districts that include both cities and rural areas
Why are these people voting in astronomical numbers given how the party in power typically sees reduced turnout during elections?
Farm belt communities are reeling due to the tariffs. Rural communities outside the farm belt have not seen the economic growth and rebound experienced by cities and suburbs. So I dont get why rural white voters are walking over glass and through fires to vote, especially when 45 was not on the ballot. Is it all about racism and their mythical white evangelical Jesus who only loves white people? I simply do not understand why their turnout was sky high yesterday.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)are calling Democrats every kind of evil, and evil must be defeated.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)DBoon
(22,366 posts)and their preachers tell them they will burn in hell if they vote Democratic
Mr. Quackers
(443 posts)They are in their last throes demographically and will lash out and become even more and more obscene to hold onto the last vestiges of white "prestige" and privilege.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)It is ridiculous of course, but they are afraid of a country that resembles them less every day. And, the Republicans tap right into those fears, exploring and magnifying them.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)audience,and they are just extending the Trump Racial Agenda.
unc70
(6,115 posts)Throw in all the rest - racism, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia, ... - and you have a perfect storm, coordinated through negative ads, Facebook and such, and you then have a perfect storm.
We really need to re-evaluate the premise that higher turnout necessarily benefits Dems.
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)That is what it comes down to. Lest we forget this country engaged in a civil war for the sole reason to defend the idea that the white man is Supreme to the black man. People were willing to die for that idea. (That is what they said in their own documents so don't reply nuh uh.)
So yes, these rural people could lose everything, see their loved ones die from lack of health care and opiods, starve from stupid tarrifs, lose their retirement but as long as they go to bed every night and are assured that they are better than a black man, all is well. Yes it is that simple for many.
Runningdawg
(4,517 posts)And judging from what I see in the rural, fundy community I left behind many years ago, more and more of the children of these people are doing the same. The kids don't want the family farm and generations of debt, they don't want to drive 300 miles round trip to see a Dr. worrying how they will pay for it the whole trip, they want their kids to have the education they never had and they are tired of being told hope and prayer will fix everything.
The families and community they leave behind sees them as traitors, another reason to hate the libs and everything they stand for. And as always, they see themselves as perfect Christians who are living in the last days and being persecuted. Onward Christian Soldiers! Jesus is coming soon!!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The ones that don't stay behind or occasionally travel to be among the people they hate. I see them a lot, their sad beatup vehicles and clothing, maybe $20 bucks in their pocket, their Trump sticker proudly displayed on their rundown vehicles. Their lives are leaving them and they need something other than their own choices to blame.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Instead of the people that are actually hurting them, the repugs that they elect. Some of those places are slowly vanishing, kids that have social skills are leaving them for bigger places. Their vote is a desperate last strike, we have not matched their intensity, if we had, the government would be all blue.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)40 years ago the USA was something like 80% non-Hispanic white; it's now around 60% and projected to be less than 50% in a few decades. That's the underlying motivation for Trump voters. That's why Trump won a majority of every white voter demographic after running a really pretty racist campaign after spending years calling Obama a Muslim foreigner.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,355 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)We need an immigration that's fair and manages the anxieties of people who can't hande the changes.
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... I think the biggest of all is that the 2016 trump campaign's dog whistles and overtones of racism, violence, misogyny and hatred for all things "other" - aroused a segment of the population that had previously been mostly disengaged from politics. Many were raised anti-government, live a little on the fringe, and would never have gone to the trouble of filling out forms and standing in line for someone like "Mittens". But a liberal bashin', N***** hatin', wimmin' takin', rich tough guy like trump...? He's their kind of guy. He tells it like it is, and don't take no shit, (chew tobaccah, chewb tobaccah, chew tobaccah spit). The rural areas across the country are full of these people.
In 2016, these people had not voted in years, and many had never been registered to vote. They seethed under that black Muslim/Kenyan guy for 8 years, and blamed their increasing misery and misfortune on him and the Dems. They were ready for some hate, and wanted nothing in the world more than to poke out the eyes of the other team. Trump showed them the way to do that.
Bomber suspect Sayoc is a PERFECT example. Middle aged and never registered to vote. Hate engaged him. In September 2016 I saw news reports in Alabama about record levels of new voter registration in some of the most rural and crimson-red counties in the state. Many had increases of as much as 25 to 30% iirc. The three most conservative counties were the leaders by sizable margins. These were not young people or new voters looking forward. This was Earl, Skeeter, Dixie Lou and Harley coming in from the deep woods to vote, and they came in huge, "caravan-like" numbers. They screwed up the demographics of the conventional electorate models - to greater or lesser degrees depending upon where - in virtually every state.
They are not in numbers enough to win state-wide offices everywhere, certainly. But enough to overwhelm the rural precincts, even in very blue states. Rural always had a majority of people kin to this stereotype - from country boy conservatives to tea baggers. But now that the "redneck extremist" is added to the mix, it's like a "super majority" in those counties. And they are significantly impacting otherwise close state and National races.
And, they are STILL registered now. And they still hate "libruls". And their leader said go vote against the evil enemies of the state. So they did. Polling operations haven't yet figured this out, imo. They are using 2010 and 2014 models that are no longer accurate because the demographics shifted dramatically in one direction, and they have been slow to accommodate it.
As I said, I'm sure there are other reasons too. But I think this is big. And it will stay big as long as trump/trumpism is on the ballot.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)At least white in America.
HAB911
(8,902 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)This is a group that sees an eternity of absolute privilege and power ebbing away. Demographics and cultural shifts chip a little deeper into their structural advantages every election, and theyre hanging on for dear life.
The imminent loss of power has radicalized them, and they sense that theyre fighting for their lives. Theyre cornered animals, lashing out desperately at changes they barely understand.
The good news? Theyre doomed, ultimately.
The bad news? Its gonna get ugly for a while.