Chelsea Clinton mostly likely the next NY Senator, and she has the.

[CK_John]

background to understand and work in the financial world of tomorrow. She has the education and skill needed to work and run government in the next 40 yrs.

Senator Schumer will retire and Senator Gillibrand hopefully will be the next President.

[DURHAM D]

1. oh brother...

[undeterred]

69. What happened to Caroline Kennedy?

Speaking of people who are qualified by family name.

[roguevalley]

83. ditto. and gillibrand next pres.? I don't get it at all. No more Bushes, Clintons, etc. no dynasties

especially a girl who has yet to even prove she can be a public person.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

100. and Carolyn didn't go work for a hedge fund

Chelsea had doors opened for her that most people could only dream of, and could have done a lot of good for the world - yet she decided the Wall Street route was what she wanted to do.

[arendt]

2. Oh, please. utter nonsense. Does she even meet the age requirement? n/t

[CK_John]

3. She is 32, and definitely a citizen. nt

[CabCurious]

75. She worked as a hedgefundie for a couple years...

And this is what us progressives consider appropriate experience to be our representative?

No, thanks.

Her best route is to become a public official on the executive side. Run things. Deal in budgets.

Not just become another legislative talking head.

[Marrah_G]

4. LOL

[BeyondGeography]

5. D-Goldman Sachs, maybe

[banned from Kos]

14. Like it or not, investment plays a vital role in the US economy

Goldman is an investment firm.

So is Kleiner Perkins. Do you hate them too?

[girl gone mad]

18. "investment firm" = nice euphemism for..

these fraudsters, scammers, welfare kings and looters.

[banned from Kos]

34. Hi - 'girl gone mad' - I have not seen you lately

I like your style.

[Taverner]

66. Yep. Pretty much.

How many times does Capitalism have to fail before we start fixing it?

[BeyondGeography]

28. Goldman's job is to run up the score for themselves

Benefits to the client have become incidental.

Why I am leaving Goldman Sachs:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs.html?pagewanted=all

[roguevalley]

85. Yes. I hate them all.

[Tx4obama]

6. She ought to run for State senator before the U.S. senate. n/t

[CK_John]

8. The state lawmakers in NY are a parttime joke. Her talent would be wasted in Albany.

[Tx4obama]

9. It would give her experience. And time for folks to forget she worked for a private equity firm. n/t

[CK_John]

11. She has more experience than 90 of 100 current Senators. The new norm

is different, doit or get out of the way.

[Tx4obama]

15. I'll have to disagree with you on that one.

The majority of U.S. Senators held some type of elected office before becoming a U.S. senator.

It is NOT the norm to run for U.S. Senate before 'nothing' else.

[CK_John]

32. Sen RFK was in what office before being Senator?

[Tx4obama]

33. I said 'the majority'. Also, I do believe we were talking about 'current' senators'.

You tossed the number '90' out of you butt - not a fact based number.


Edited to add:

And as far as RFK, being United States Attorney General does give a person quite a bit of 'experience' in the governmental realm.

[WI_DEM]

65. He was a Senate aide and Attorney General of the US, hardly a good comparison.

[MADem]

55. More than half of US Senators are lawyers, as well.

I suppose it's not a bad resume point, since they are supposed to be lawmakers.

If they're not coming from elected office (either moving up from the House, or running after concluding a governorship, for example), they are often coming from appointed positions in the attorney general's office of their respective states.

Incumbency is a very powerful thing in Congress, and especially so in the Senate.

[GreenPartyVoter]

23. +1

[MattBaggins]

99. What talent?

[Jessy169]

7. A Clinton political dynasty?

Better than a Bush dynasty by far, but still not what I hope to see. Unless it turns out she's just a flat-out outstanding candidate, then sure, why not?

[orpupilofnature57]

31. Two kids that worked their ass off ,isn't

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_family

[eShirl]

10. Let her rise through the ranks like everyone else.

[CK_John]

12. Where did the SOS start.

[brooklynite]

13. Clearly, you have no understanding of NY Politics...

Getting the First Lady elected to a Senate seat is one thing. Getiing a daughter with no political experience elected 20 years after her mother left office (Schumer won't be retiring anytime soon), with all the local prospects also running is virtually impossible.

[marmar]

16. Agreed.

nt

[FarCenter]

43. It didn't work out for Caroline Kennedy, and that was an appointment to the Senate seat.

[CabCurious]

76. Amen to that. If she's serious, she should aim for NYC City Council...

and then MAYOR in 15 years.

[banned from Kos]

17. I recced for 'Gillibrand for President' part.

YES!!!!!!

2016!

[Avalux]

19. Just because her name is Clinton doesn't mean she's qualified.

I'm sure she's a very bright, lovely young woman, but her years working in the financial sector, her BA in history and post grad n public health doesn't necessarily translate to public office. Of course her 'informal' experience as the daughter of Bill and Hilary might help.

She shouldn't get automatic support just because of her name....

[vaberella]

22. Amen. n/t

[cr8tvlde]

20. She needs some experience first...no matter how smart, connected or financially capable.

And I think she is all of that, but it's asking for a lot of pressure and/or favors to jump over the entire crowd first time in. The biggest risk being that she doesn't make it.

[vaberella]

21. Gillibrand like most people worked up to that level.

I'd prefer to be a Representative or local political office for a few years before aiming as a New York Senator. The name Clinton can't buy you the world. I need her in the field. Living in Brooklyn, the Bronx or Queens or something before aiming to understand what New Yorkers need. What is her years in NYC? Keep in mind I did not support her mother taking office. I'd prefer a long living in New Yorker New Yorker aiming for positions in our states.

[CK_John]

36. She has lived and worked in NYC for many yrs and has made her own millions.

[Retrograde]

61. Has she spent any time north of Westchester county?

Summering at Saratoga and skiing in the Adirondacks don't count. Has she ever been to the rural parts of the state? Or the Rust Belt portions? Or the part of Appalachia that sticks up into NYS?

One thing I will give her mother credit for is getting to know the whole state, and not just when she was running the first time. The Buffalo News pointed out early in her term that she spent more time in that city in 2 years than her predecessor did in 24! When Chelsea gets out into the rest of her state - and that probably includes Staten Island, the Bronx, and the parts of Queens that aren't JFK, I'll give her more credit.

[CK_John]

62. She hit most of the univ around Albany when she campaigned for her Mom.

She is well known in upstate NY and will not need much of an induction.

[CabCurious]

93. Dude... that doesn't count for upstaters

Hillary is the only politician who will ever get away with that upstate.

[CabCurious]

80. I don't think New Yorkers are impressed with how she made money in her 20s nt

[Poll_Blind]

24. In a nation of 300+ million, that smacks of nothing but heredetary political dynasty. :puke: nt

PB

[vaberella]

78. Something that irks me and NYC has enough of those. n/t

[Confusious]

96. Yep

Double puke.

[Jennicut]

25. I wouldn't have a problem with Chelsea getting into politics.

I like Chelsea but I do think she would need experience on the state level first. Ever her father was an Attorney General of Arkansas before he became Governor.

[HiPointDem]

26. her financial industry qualifications consist of work for two firms that do what bain capital does -

destroy the US economic base.

yes, i guess those are great qualifications for the wasteland to come.

but by that measure romney has even better qualifications, as he's done it longer.

[CK_John]

44. Not true, one was management consult to government and one was

an investment firm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McKinsey_%26_Company

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avenue_Capital_Group

[HiPointDem]

50. you didn't read that article very well:

McKinsey is one of the market leading "Big Three" in management consulting services to the Fortune 500 set, along with Bain & Company and The Boston Consulting Group,

Bain & Co is Mitt's firm. Bain & McKinsey do the same things so far as consulting goes -- including instruct companies how to save $$ and evade scrutiny re offshoring, outsourcing, etc.

[CabCurious]

82. Look more closely.

Nobody right out of college at McKinsey is doing anything important.

Yet she went straight into a hedge fund after that. This is basically a Romney-style road to riches.

What has she MADE? What has she DONE? Who has she HELPED?

All these degrees. All this money.

She's going to have to prove herself by putting it all to good use. She hasn't yet.

[bluestateguy]

27. Where did that come from?

Such remarks need to be sourced and documented, not merely asserted and assumed to be fact.

[CK_John]

47. Let google be your friend.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

29. Oh, please. We have too many dynasties in this country already.

I'm sure she's a competent, intelligent young woman. But let's give somebody a chance who didn't inherit their advantage.

[roguevalley]

88. why not run luke russert for president? I am sick of nepotism

[Retrograde]

92. I see what you did there :) (n/t)

[kooljerk666]

30. Schumer retiring is the best part of this post............

He has the meanest, rudest staff of any Dem office I have ever dealt with.

Except for maybe Feinsteins, I was complaining there about media consolidation (approx 2002) & some chump named Martin, basically called me a nazi.

[Whisp]

35. talk about privilege

There are many other deserving women her age that wouldn't get a 3000 mile sniff at that chance, but becuase she is the lucky sperm club receiver...

ugh.

[banned from Kos]

37. That is true and I readily admit so.

The same could have been said for a Ted Kennedy though.

[Whisp]

39. agree but

the difference is, and it's subjective, I didn't like a lot of what the Kennedy's did but in the end when everything is shifted out - they contributed positively in many ways.

I just don't like the Clintons, none of them. Lots of reasons which have been posted here time and again so I'm sure you know what those reasons could be whether you agree or not.

I don't think Clinton left much positive in his trail he leaves behind him. When you sit down and do the plus and minus list, there is a lot more minus than his 'economic good times' which some say was his own doing all by himself, nevermind all the IT peeps and such.

[Generic Other]

38. I thought Caroline Kennedy was the choice

Maybe that's why the Bush twin hangs out at NBC. She's going to run too!

[Alduin]

40. So you want a senator who has experience working for big businesses?

Awesome.

[CK_John]

41. Yes, a must for the next 50 yrs at least.

[Alduin]

42. I'd rather have someone who has experience doing humanitarian work.

Or someone who seems like they give a damn about the poor.

[CabCurious]

84. Amen.

[aquart]

45. Schumer will NOT retire and Gillibrand isn't going to be president in this decade.

What idiotic nonsense.

[baldguy]

46. When Hillary was her age, she was asst council for the Watergate Commission.

Bill was the Attorney General of Arkansas

[CK_John]

49. Just seen him last week and he looked ready to retire. nt

[madinmaryland]

48. DU Unrec for the silliest post of the week in GD.

[limpyhobbler]

51. She's totally earned it.

[hlthe2b]

52. She needs to work her way to that... Having never held elective office, to start with Senator?

Maybe Congress. Though I'd like to see her with some considerable relevant experience beyond hedge fund management first.

[davidpdx]

68. +1

At 32 she's have plenty of time to build the experience in a lower level office. Her dad was state attorney general and governor before being president. Many others have done the same thing.

[jehop61]

53. Oh Please,

No more dynasties AND New York is not the center of the Universe.

[DonCoquixote]

54. Hate to be mean, but

The fact the Clintons act like rebels but make sure the financiers are well guarded reminds me why I did not vote for Hillary in 2008.

And before the Pumas attack, yes I realized Obama acted very Clintonesque towards Wall Street, even though Hill's BFFs Arianna huffington and Lynn Rothschild still treat him like the hired help that stepped out of bounds. People are disappointed with Obama not because he failed to be Clinton, but because he acted like Clinton.

And while I would love to see Gillibrand get the Oval Office someday, Chelsea needs a taste of the real world, something she has never had being born to wealth.

[CabCurious]

86. IF Chelsea is serious... she should get into City Council for ten years, then run for MAYOR.

Her father rose to power as an Executive, not as a legislator.

[muriel_volestrangler]

56. Is 'CK' short for 'Carnak'?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

57. I don't believe I have ever heard her utter a word. Can she? nt

[TheKentuckian]

58. What do you see as her strongest policy positions? Where do you disagree with her most?

[ProgressiveProfessor]

59. What is with the Chelsea love fest today?

Is she in People or Us magazines this week?

She has been pampered and well handled, but to think she is ready for anything like the Senate is madness.

[CabCurious]

87. Yes, flattering photos of her so everybody is gushing

[ProgressiveProfessor]

98. They ignore some one who has actually gotten their hands dirty

like Amy Carter

[Kingofalldems]

103. How has she been pampered and well handled?

That seems to imply some sort of conspiracy to put her in office.

[Retrograde]

60. OK, she's smart and financially skilled. Let her work her way up to the position

New York has a lot of skilled, talented and smart people who don't come from political families: they have to put in their dues at the local and then the state level. We don't have a hereditary House of Lords in this country, and recent experiences with the Bush clan should make us glad we don't.

Now, there are some decent politicians who come from political families - like Gillibrand (whom I've been impressed by) - but even they don't start out at the top.

The woman I'd like to see as New York's next senator is Louise Slaughter, who's been serving her district in Western New York for over 20 years.

[Katie]

63. Chelsea's former firms have donated to Democrats and I'd rather have her than Peter King anyday

The same firms people complain about that she was employed by, have given money to Democratic candidates and none have refused it. I remember a lot of bashing about Kirsten Gillibrand too on this board, and instead of all the horror stories that were going to happen, none did and she has done an amazing job as Senator.

It seems every few months there is a rumor about Chelsea running. If it's true, I certainly would support her, especially when given the choice of some of the republicans we have here in NY. Especially Peter King, he's just one, probably one of the worst, of many, I don't want to see elected to any office.


But putting that aside, Chelsea is a very intelligent accomplished young woman. She's a graduate of Stanford and Oxford. She was awarded an M.Phil. in international relations in 2003. In 2010, She completed a Master of Public Health degree at Columbia Mailman School of Public Health. Also in 2010, she served as Assistant Vice Provost for the Global Network University of New York University. In 2011, she began pursuing a doctoral degree in international relations from Oxford University. In 2012, she started teaching graduate classes at Columbia's Mailman School of Public Health.

In other words, she's no dumbbell ala Palin.

And that in itself is important. I think along with her academic achievements, it shows she has the intelligence and the ability to handle anything and handle it well. In addition, she has always carried herself with grace and class, and if she didn't it would be all over the NY papers.


Personally, I don't believe she would start at the top, I think if she is really interested in running, it's going to be local. I don't think her coming from a political family will hurt her here at all. If anything I think she has a very good idea of what will be expected of her and what NY politics are like. You are not going to see her lead the fight to try and re-institute a ban against gay marriage or deny women choice. Not gonna happen. Also, the Clinton family are regarded as New Yorkers. They are well liked & both Bill and Hillary poll extremely well here and in the country. So I think that would be a definite advantage for her in a NY election. And like it or not, there are still a lot of people who regard the Clinton years as very good ones for themselves and their families. It is what it is, and it benefits the Democratic party. If it didn't we wouldn't be having Bill at the Convention, we would be hiding him, like the repukes are doing with GW Bush & Palin.

So if she wants to run for political office, why not? She's 32, no longer a teenager being harassed by the likes of Rush and Mc Cain and the whole damn republican party. She survived that, and managed to do it without falling down drunk anywhere. She has impressive academic achievements and more business experience than Paul Ryan and his only private sector job, driving a weiner mobile.

So, Chelsea...go for it, you've got my vote.

[WI_DEM]

64. What makes you think she will run for NY Senator? maybe she will decide to start smaller

and get some experience?

[CabCurious]

79. She would get absolutely destroyed running for Senate

By other democrats

[adigal]

67. Gillibrand was intensely anti-immigrant when she was in NY 20

Ms. Gillibrand, a Democrat, opposed any sort of amnesty for illegal immigrants, supported deputizing local law enforcement officers to enforce federal immigration laws, spoke out against Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s proposal to allow illegal immigrants to have driver’s licenses and sought to make English the official language of the United States.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/us/politics/28immigration.html

Chelsea has no experience in government, and I hate royal families.

[hack89]

70. I hope not - we don't need a dynastic political aristocracy. nt

[DonCoquixote]

71. First of all

Until she actually RUNS for something, it does not matter.

[HooptieWagon]

72. Did you forget the link to The Onion site?

[Bonobo]

73. Because public service is a genetically inherited trait.

Fuck American-style royalty.

[Katie]

91. Sure seemed like it with the Kennedys

and truthfully I don't think JFK or Robert Kennedy did such a bad job.

[Puregonzo1188]

74. Just what we need--more Goldman Sachs employees in government.

[Katie]

90. Except Chelsea Clinton never worked for Goldman

[CabCurious]

94. Even worse... she joined a hedge fund in her early 20s...

[Drunken Irishman]

77. Likely based on what?

[MannyGoldstein]

81. It's in the bag!

My head, that is. In a plastic bag. At the thought of.

[outsideworld]

89. hope

so

[JDPriestly]

95. I'll believe it when I see it.

Gillibrand as president? Don't make me laugh. She is a nice lady but . . . . . ?

[Confusious]

97. Nice to see so many people

Who had a problem with JR riding coattails has no problem with our side doing it.

I don't want no fucking aristocrats.

[no_hypocrisy]

101. I have doubts about how soon Sen. Schumer will retire.

NJ's Frank Lautenberg is 78 and running for another six-year term.

[Mass]

102. It has always amazed me that people here wants this country to become an oligarchy.

If her last name was not Clinton, nobody would even consider her (just like few people would consider Joe Kennedy III to replace Barney Frank).