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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:55 PM Nov 2018

Mark Lindsay (Paul Revere & The Raiders) on the cost his new pacemaker and the state of healthcare

Mark Lindsay
12 hrs ·
I guess I *am* the $6 million dollar man. OK, I exaggerate...about $85 thousand dollar man ❤️. The final (I hope) pacemaker bill arrived yesterday. ***UPDATE: new bill, I’m the $90 thousand dollar man!*** So I get to have a second thankful post about how much I appreciate having good health insurance and that the USA has a Medicare program. So far, my out of pocket is $6.00, although we are still challenging the ambulance bill balance of $400, since they’re saying I could have been taken to a closer place to have the surgery. Unless the cardiologist was going to do it in the median of I-95, that isn’t the case, so hopefully that will be corrected.

It got me thinking about the whole health care system in our country...and what if I didn’t qualify for Medicare? What if I didn’t have good health insurance? I’m lucky I worked enough to have good union coverage, but what if I didn’t? Very few people could take $85k out of their pocket to pay - assuming the surgery could have taken place without some financial guarantee.

I thank my past self for realizing I wasn’t immortal and keeping up those insurance premiums. And hopefully this is a wake up call to people who are waiting to get good insurance “later”. If you can arrange your budget to afford it, buy the best plan you can. Starbucks will survive without you.

Our health care system has gotten better but is still broken. When you’re thinking about who should represent you in govt, please think about this and put yourself in the position of someone who needs expensive care, or who has a pre-existing condition. Speaking from experience, I know this health care debate can pretty much be a lot of noise until it affects you personally.

OK, off my soapbox for now. If you choose to reply to me or other posters, please be civil in your remarks to or about others (including politicians by name)...everyone is entitled to an opinion.

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Mark Lindsay (Paul Revere & The Raiders) on the cost his new pacemaker and the state of healthcare (Original Post) Miles Archer Nov 2018 OP
I don't understand why people in this country aren't outraged for not having health care as a right area51 Nov 2018 #1
A lot of people are and have been which caused Hillary BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #4
Wish they'd enacted her plan, it was a good one that went overboard to ensure Hoyt Nov 2018 #7
So many people who vote now do not even remember all of that. susanna Nov 2018 #15
I just watched an old Murphy Brown rerun BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #17
And that does not shock me at all. susanna Nov 2018 #19
Yes, "better days" and ASAP! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #22
many don't care unless it affects them personally JI7 Nov 2018 #10
Yep, that is the unfortunate truth about most political issues. BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #14
Mark Lindsay has a pacemaker! Ohiogal Nov 2018 #2
Me, too! EffieBlack Nov 2018 #6
I had such a major crush on ML in my teens. Laffy Kat Nov 2018 #8
That Was Good Looking Young Man ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #20
Here he was on "Married with Children" singing for "Old Aid" spooky3 Nov 2018 #9
kicks just keep getting harder to find, eh? nt msongs Nov 2018 #3
Especially if you're HUNGRY. displacedtexan Nov 2018 #11
K & R for Mark Lindsay! Loved him when I was 13, still love him at 66! 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2018 #5
About 14 years ago I was working for a really good company and Stonepounder Nov 2018 #12
My wife is on her third pacemaker. Mr.Bill Nov 2018 #13
Sorry but: He should have been in Gerry and the Pacemakers!!! winstars Nov 2018 #16
Good one! (I saw Mark Lindsay in concert last summer, he lilactime Nov 2018 #18
"hopefully this is a wake up call for people who are waiting to get good insurance later" llmart Nov 2018 #21

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
4. A lot of people are and have been which caused Hillary
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 12:03 AM
Nov 2018

Last edited Sun Nov 25, 2018, 02:43 AM - Edit history (1)

to focus on Universal Healthcare in the 90s. The men in DC and in general didn't like a woman messing around with the "men's business" and wanted her to go back to the W House kitchen and tell the cook to make cookies.

Half the country is just plain stupid. They believe the evil "socialism" is the same as USSR era Communism since they can't think for themselves and learn the truth. The GOP and corporate America is bankrupting and killing us. I am one of their victims.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Wish they'd enacted her plan, it was a good one that went overboard to ensure
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 12:45 AM
Nov 2018

strong local control of much of the decisions, which was a really big deal for many states back then.

susanna

(5,231 posts)
15. So many people who vote now do not even remember all of that.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 03:16 AM
Nov 2018

And that is tragic.

I remember it well. Hillary did her best to get people to understand the need for health care reform, way back in the "olden" days.

HRC was way ahead of her time, even back then, and all it earned her were lifelong enemies - and corporatists, at that. Which is why I knew then that she was a real leader, and someone to respect. She has been fighting this fight for over 25 years.

I am sorry you were one of the victims; I truly am. I watched my sister die because of our broken health care system. She was 46, and on Medicaid. She was treated so very horribly I still get enraged just thinking about it. My sister was my right arm. I miss her more than I can express.

I am also angry every single day that people do not understand how this will impact them. If not now, soon.

And their epiphany will come far too late for far too many.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
17. I just watched an old Murphy Brown rerun
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 03:44 AM
Nov 2018

the other night and Murphy supported Clinton of course. A lot of "old" issues are topics on that show and it makes me think that nothing has changed in 25+ years, especially with the greedy, selfish, corrupt GOP.

When will THOSE people die off? They should be the first ones to kick the bucket (in a fair and just world). What is ironic is that they get the ACA...yes, the same ACA they tried to destroy!

"As members of Congress debate whether to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, it seems fair to ask: How much do they pay for health care? The answer is that, while they don't pay nothing for coverage, they don't pay much.
As the myth busting website Snopes points out, "contrary to popular belief, Congressional members do not receive free health care." Instead, they choose a gold-level Obamacare policy and receive federal subsidies that cover 72 percent of the cost of the premiums.
In short, Snopes reports that members of Congress and staff "pay approximately 28 percent of their annual healthcare premiums through pre-tax payroll deductions." They also have access to "free or low-cost care" through the Office of the Attending Physician as well as "free medical outpatient care at military facilities" in the D.C. area."
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/25/heres-how-much-members-of-congress-pay-for-their-health-insurance.html

susanna

(5,231 posts)
19. And that does not shock me at all.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 04:23 AM
Nov 2018

They have never been on the real front lines of the little people's health "care." (I put that in quotes because it is anything but.)

In answer to the question when will they die off? After us. They have their health care insured. Younger people do not, or at least not in any way that is meaningful.

I hope for better times.

Peace to you. May we see better days.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
14. Yep, that is the unfortunate truth about most political issues.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 02:48 AM
Nov 2018

People are very self absorbed and it has been getting really bad since social media came into the picture and everyone only cares about how popular they are and to show off that they are having a better life experience than everyone else. They care more about making people jealous than they do about climate change, jobs, equal rights, etc.

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
8. I had such a major crush on ML in my teens.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 01:04 AM
Nov 2018

We're talkin' all Paul Revere and the Raiders albums, all of ML's solo albums; posters all over my bedroom wall, etc.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
12. About 14 years ago I was working for a really good company and
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 01:20 AM
Nov 2018

paying for the best insurance they had, and their best was GOOD.

One Saturday night I passed out in the garage. Ambulance ride to hospital, hours of tests. Admitted to hospital. Sunday they happened to have a team available for angiogram. Monday morning they came in to shave me at 6:30 am and then wheeled down for open heart surgery. Triple bypass, cleaned out a clot that the staff colloquially referred to as "the widow maker" and a MAZE procedure to get rid of my a-fib. Five days in hospital, 8 weeks of physical therapy three times a week. (I had also signed up for a $5.00/week fee to bump my 'short term disability' up to 100% of my salary.) I was off work for 90 days.

I never missed a penny of my paycheck. My total out-of-pocket was something like $300 on a $125,000 hospital bill. What would have happened without the really good insurance?

Why can every other 1st world and most 2nd world countries afford truly affordable health care for its population and we can't?

llmart

(15,540 posts)
21. "hopefully this is a wake up call for people who are waiting to get good insurance later"
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 09:48 AM
Nov 2018

I know a lot of Medicare eligible seniors who sign up for the cheapest plans or just go with regular Medicare with no supplement. This happens a lot with those who are new to Medicare and in good health at that time. It's a risky move. You may be in good/excellent health at 65, like I was and something you never even thought might happen to you happens because, after all, your body does and will start breaking down on you no matter how "perfectly" you think you are living your life. I pay for the best Medicare supplement you can get and I am so thankful that I made that decision.

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