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muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 08:54 AM Nov 2018

Swiss vote for treaties to keep precedence - and to not subsidize cow horn non-trimming

The first is a fairly important principle; but the odd juxtaposition of the 2nd made me smile.

Swiss voters appear to have rejected a proposal to give Swiss law precedence over international law and treaties, according to early projections from a national referendum.

Initial figures showed 67% voted against and 33% in favour, national broadcaster SRF said.

Critics said the proposal would have damaged the country's global standing.

A plan to subsidise farmers who do not trim their cows' horns also appears to have been rejected.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46335918

More on treaties:

United in opposition are the Swiss government, all major political parties bar one, and a coalition of 120 civil society organisations, from environmental groups to groups which support the elderly, the disabled, or refugees.
...
She believes the proposal could allow voters to unpick dozens of international commitments the Swiss have signed up to, on human rights, the rights of the child, or even on trade.

There is one political party that supports this proposal, and it is arguably Switzerland's most powerful political force: the right-wing Swiss People's Party (SVP).

And the People's Party has succeeded before in votes on limiting immigration from the EU and on deporting foreign criminals, although their proposals were not enacted into law as rigorously as the party had hoped.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46302030

And the horns: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/25/swiss-voters-take-the-cow-by-the-horns-referendum-armin-capaul
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Swiss vote for treaties to keep precedence - and to not subsidize cow horn non-trimming (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2018 OP
Ever seen a calf get de-horned? HopeAgain Nov 2018 #1
I was taught to use an anesthetic mrs_p Nov 2018 #2
Wasn't when I was a there HopeAgain Nov 2018 #3

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
1. Ever seen a calf get de-horned?
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 09:01 AM
Nov 2018

It's brutal and traditionally done in U.S. the same time the castrate them and burn them with the branding iron. Worked on a ranch in New Mexico one summer as a kid.

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
2. I was taught to use an anesthetic
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 09:11 AM
Nov 2018

Block in vet school. I take it, that’s not the way it’s done by the ranch hands?

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
3. Wasn't when I was a there
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 09:30 AM
Nov 2018

That was over thirty years ago, but I doubt it has changed. Just held them down with their knee.

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