IMHO: Corsi and Manafort are refusing to finger 45 on taking Russian oppo data: Hence, jail.

[lindysalsagal]

I'm saying that if Mueller had evidence that both of them knew of 45's involvement in russian election hacking, and refused to finger 45, this is exactly how it would look to us from the outside.

But I'm no legal/prosecution/election tampering expert, so there might be less malignant reasons why both are talking jail tonight, just as the dems reclaimed the house and subpoena power.

It all adds up.

[libdem4life]

1. My unofficial opinion... It's a classic clusterfu#k.

And I'd be lying if I inferred I wasn't enjoying it...politically speaking, that is.

[SWBTATTReg]

2. Makes one wonder just exactly how far and extensive the scope of what Mueller's ...

investigations have revealed, eh? This guy doesn't pull punches and certainly doesn't waste time in going after those who don't live up to their plea agreements etc.

[triron]

3. Pretty revealing about what could be.

[SWBTATTReg]

6. Yes, I know. And what's most exciting about all of this is what we don't know or suspect. I ...

think when he finally delivers his end products (report(s), etc.), it will be a shock and surprise to many of the extensive efforts on procuring Russian help and all of those engaged in these illegal efforts.

[Kingofalldems]

4. I bet they were promised pardons.

[Jarqui]

11. That is quite plausible

Having said that, I can see Corsi taking a stand because he's not going to go to prison for a long time for perjury. It might be financially beneficial for him to stand up to Mueller and then sell his books or raise money from Trump's deadheads.

Manafort is harder to figure. He spends a bunch of time spilling the beans after very convincing cases were brought against him. And then he lies ?? It was prohibitive because many of the things Manafort was charged with could be charged at the State level.

However, since his plea deal, Kavanaugh was jammed onto the Supreme Court.

On Dec 5th, oral arguments are being heard in Gamble v USA to determine if Double Jeopardy should wipe out the ability of state charges to be filed if federal charges are dealt with
http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/gamble-v-united-states/

It may be that Trump has leaked to Manafort & Corsi that they're going to win that case with Kavanaugh's decision and Trump will pardon them. Which would render a Special Prosecutor ever trying to investigate the president as an almost impossible task because the President could just pardon everyone in sight.

If that is what is happening, it could get violent from the outrage.

[allgood33]

13. Russia may cut the money strings because of the way the Trumpian idiots handled all this.

It is a true cluster-f**k!

[librechik]

5. pardon me?

they hope

[thbobby]

7. I do not know what to think

Mueller knowing intimate detail of trump-Russia conspiracy and Corsi and Manafort lying about it makes perfect sense to me. But, do I have confirmation bias? Very difficult to be objective about this.

[More_Cowbell]

8. In the meantime, though, Trump answered questions that he might have thought Manafort made a deal on

It could be that Mueller held off on this news because as long as Trump thought that Manafort was cooperating, Trump might have answered truthfully.

I guess we'll find out!

[Raven123]

9. Interesting that these come up after Trump submits his "answers "

[triron]

10. I think you hit the nail on the head.

[Wellstone ruled]

12. Manafort is sitting on

something dealing with the Ukraine and Russia. Malhcom Nance has always hinted it is a world wide Espionage Case run by Major Banks and Certain Political players.

[Takket]

14. it makes no sense....

the only thing i can conclude is that there is a MASSIVE movement behind the scenes, evolving in real time right now, that we cannot possibly understand with the limited info we have.