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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Biggest Reveal: Mueller Knew Manafort Was Lying and WHY
Truths, lies, half-truths, and all the shades between... each one is revealing to frame of mind and context. Mueller knew when Manafort was lying, what it was about, and now he knows why. Thanks Manafort for being the predictable chump you are. When you know a supposedly cooperating witness is lying and why, it gives you the keys to the kingdom in taking apart the criminal organization as a whole. Mueller can now prove frame of mind, motive and intent. It is also revealing that Muellers case against Trumps crime organization is based predominantly on concrete evidence, not on any shady testimony that Trumps goons would provide.
orangecrush
(19,570 posts)Is a Grandmaster.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)unblock
(52,243 posts)They just can't seem to avoid stepping on their own d**ks.
lastlib
(23,239 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)orangecrush
(19,570 posts)Botany
(70,510 posts)He knows how to deal with organized crime. My guess is that he got Trump's written answers and then looked at Manafort's answers.
eggplant
(3,911 posts)Turbineguy
(37,337 posts)23 years in the electric chair.
babylonsister
(171,066 posts)He's been chatting with Mueller for a very long time. Some things he revealed must be true.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)It's what they do.
babylonsister
(171,066 posts)I've heard that it's not admissible but Mueller knew he was lying. So there's that.
wishstar
(5,269 posts)therefore his testimony will not be provided to the Grand Jury or used in court to obtain indictments or convictions.
brush
(53,784 posts)in Ukraine. Hard to outsmart Mueller's team when you're locked up.
He must be really afraid of what waits for him from Putin if he rats out trump.
Good luck with that pardon wish but trump will throw his ass and everybody else's under the bus to save himself.
Maybe he'll save the czarina, hoping he'll finally get to...
erronis
(15,286 posts)bankrupt party and bankers to allow them to poison the executive branch.
brush
(53,784 posts)Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us, it binds the galaxy together.
Cogito ergo Mueller
blugbox
(951 posts)Everyone knows it's how many microscopic little bugs are living in you!
I'm sure Mueller has over 20,000!
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)... while Manafort, Papadopoulos and others can barely manage checkers.
0rganism
(23,955 posts)i always did want to see that version...
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)Flynn, Cohen, others who have already cooperated may have known about lines of communication between the Trump campaign, and perhaps Trump himself, and Assange and Russia. It could be that Trump himself doesn't know that they knew about those communications. If Mueller has them, in writing, Trump is screwn.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)trump elected. They need to be prosecuted, but trump is still sitting in office nominating judges, veto any decent legislation that reaches his desk, etc.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)MontanaMama
(23,319 posts)Rachel told us a week and a half ago that Mueller had asked for a 10 day extension on the Manafort case which puts us at TODAY. Could be a bumpy week.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)His Lawyers: WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T LIE! You'll be in big fucking trouble if you lie! Don't do it! SAY IT! Say I WON'T LIE!
Mueller's team: Look at what you're signing, Paul. Read it carefully. You must cooperate in all ways, and above all YOU CANNOT LIE! EVER! Read it and tell us you understand everything. Especially the part about lying.
Manafort's wife: Paul, don't be an idiot like usual. You can't lie to these people. It's a crime. You could spend the rest of your life...wait. Maybe you should lie.
Manafort: I can get away with it. They'll never find out. I'm smarter than...
Judge: *pounds gavel*
mucifer
(23,547 posts)the russians would do to his family. Either way Mueller lost the testimony he was counting on.
uponit7771
(90,346 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)They have enough already to know when Manafort was lying, what it concerned and why.
Information is revealed when a suspect lies and this information can be as useful if not moreso than testimony.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Manaforts testimony. He knew he was lying from the beginning. He is in jail right now because he contacted those he was not supposed to. Mueller is used to dealing with smarter criminals than this bunch of Keystone Kops.
autorank
(29,456 posts)You nailed it. Meuller also forced Trump's hand on the written questions and, I'm sure, confronted Manafort with Trump's responses, which were more revealing not knowing why Meuller got his deal.
Also, there is about zero doubt in my mind that there is some video/photographic evidence that Manafort entered the Ecuadorian embassy on several occasions. Assange is no journalist and Manafort is no civil libertarian in London to support Assange's claims of persecution.
Cary
(11,746 posts)I just hope justice is served because it will be heartbreaking if it isn't.
Linda Ed
(493 posts)I can't wait! The conclusion is almost crystal clear. The story of a president compromising American foreign policy in exchange for financial gain and covert election assistance.
Because he expects a pardon from Trump, Manafort felt free to lie to investigators while also acting as a mole for Trump, feeding him information about what he falsely told Mueller, according to national security journalist Marcy Wheeler, writing on her Empty Wheel site.
As a result, Trumps written answers to Muellers questions, which Trump submitted last week as CNN reported, are likely to be full of lies, Wheeler wrote.
The journalist, who herself has given information to the FBI in the Russia case, according to the Washington Post, wrote that Muellers team appears to have no doubt that Manafort was lying to them. That means they didnt really need his testimony, at all. It also means they had no need to keep secrets they could keep giving Manafort the impression that he was pulling a fast one over the prosecutors, all while reporting misleading information to Trump.
But deceiving Trump into, in all likelihood, parroting Manaforts lies in his written answers to Mueller which would also serve as evidence that Manafort was acting as a Trump spy within the investigation Wheeler says that Mueller has now given himself an opportunity to air his collusion evidence in open court.
Mueller has proposed a way to put Donald Trump, and the facts about Donald Trump, on trial without the slightest chance of executive privilege being asserted, successfully or unsuccessfully. And Manafort, thug that he is, fumbled and crime'd himself right into this trap.
https://www.inquisitr.com/5181923/robert-mueller-set-trap-for-trump-russia-collusion-paul-manafort/
malaise
(269,022 posts)He's got the scumbags
kentuck
(111,098 posts)The word is that "a sitting president cannot be indicted"?
Does Mueller agree with that?