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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Trump going to bury the auto industry in a shallow grave?
Some of the industrys problems, of course, have nothing to do with Trump. For instance, American automakers are finding it nearly impossible to compete with Japan when it comes to sedans, and theres been a significant migration to electric cars, where China holds a major advantage. But the presidents good and easy-to-win trade wars have made the situation markedly worseand not just due to the higher prices of steel and aluminum. In September, a headline wondered aloud, Did Trump just kill the U.S. auto industry? after Germanys top manufacturersBMW, Daimler, BASF, Volkswagen, Siemensall announced tens of billions of new investments in China, with BMW saying it would move a portion of its S.U.V. production out of its giant South Carolina plant in response to Trumps auto tariffs. In June, G.M. warned that the policy could lead to a reduced presence in the U.S., as well as fewer U.S.-based jobs.
Another thing Trump conveniently glided over during his chat with the Journal? The fact that more job losses are practically a certainty. In a detailed blow-by-blow, Axios confirmed on Tuesday what most people outside the White House have known for some time now: big automakers are in very, very bad shape, despite the claims by the 45th president that they, like the coal industry, are coming back in a major way. In April, Ford announced that it was dropping all but two cars from its North American dealerships. In a recent interview, Tesla C.E.O. Elon Musk said that earlier this year his entire company was within single-digit weeks of driving off a cliff without new financing or layoffs. Fiat Chrysler cut its 2018 outlook. G.M. might have framed Mondays announcement as transforming its global workforce to ensure it has the right skill sets for today and the future, while driving efficiencies through the utilization of best-in-class tools, but the writing is more or less on the wall.
Meanwhile, instead of backing down on policies that are having a quite obvious negative impact on American manufacturers, President Slow-on-the-Uptake is preparing to double down on tariffs, likely boosting the levies on $200 billion of Chinese goods to 25 percent, and threatening to slap tariffs on the entirety of Chinese imports if he doesnt get what he wants from Beijing. Why? Because he still thinks tariffs are the best, twice telling the Journal that he is a tariff person, and citing his decision to use them as evidence of his intelligence. (I happen to be a tariff person because Im a smart person.) And dont even think about blaming tariffs for G.M.s plight. Tariffs, much like the presidents favorite child, are perfect and unimpeachable:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/is-trump-going-to-bury-the-auto-industry-in-a-shallow-grave
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)The two states he needs for re-election just may have gone out the window.
Factor in Democratic Party wins in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania too.
Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)President Tantrum would remove the $7500 tax break for buyers that Heller is trying to extend through 2022 (GM hits the existing 200k cars sold threshold by the end of this year and other automakers would also benefit from the extension). So to punish them for cutting jobs he knocks out a subsidy that is helping them employ people and compete with China. Brilliant.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)So that their product sells and continues to pollute the environment, thus creating more carbon emmissions and warming the Earth.
Hybrid/Electric cars use very little to no gas.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)But theyre keeping the big cars and ditching their most fuel-efficient vehicles. Trump logic.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)It gets 34 miles to the gallon on the long road trips we take. Plenty big for the 2 of us.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)I understand the sales trends. The SUV was a brilliant marketing move and people have literally grown into them. Theyre getting older and bigger. And America is a big place. Most areas are SUV-friendly. Youd think people would still welcome the chance to save money on gas, but comfort comes first, I guess. The best car I ever had mpg-wise was the unlawful Jetta diesel, which got around 600 miles per tank on the highway. Thing was awesome.
Ciaphas Cain
(124 posts)Donnie is playing checkers, Putin is playing Chess and the Chinese are purchasing the wreckage of our economy at discount prices.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)will GM and Ford finally move their Sales to a Kiosk System. Reason I say this is,back in the late nineties,was invited to a Auto Customer Review of new Models and Sales methodology. One venue featured the new Sales Kiosk where you could place your Auto order on line and it would be shipped to a Dealer near you for Prep . The Set had one show model with visual aides to select your options and colors.
One of the messages inside the on line order pad,called for a 6 week lead time and the order will go directly to the Assembly Plant assigned to your Model choice.
Having a Family member as a Dealer Manager,this idea is still being considered. Minimum inventory and no Sales Force,only greeter on duty.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)People who sell cars are workers too. Frankly, I prefer to deal with a salesperson when buying a car. If it gets to the point where I can't find that at a dealership, I will find one that has it.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)the Kiosk Model will be the norm. You and I are just throw backs to the good old days.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)the kids will take away my License anyway. Looking forward to one of them three wheeled Scooter's.
BootinUp
(47,156 posts)Johonny
(20,851 posts)and did nothing to increase demand. The price of cars is simply moving to a price point average Americans can't afford new cars.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Tanking US industries are GOOD for the Trump Family Fortunes.