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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums13% "No" vote on Pelosi
203 - yes
32 - no
3 - blank
1 - absent (Sean Maloney)
218 will be needed for the vote in January.
dem4decades
(11,306 posts)samnsara
(17,650 posts)Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Or they get primaried in 2020. It's just that simple.
blogslut
(38,019 posts)Pelosi, who previously served as the first woman speaker from 2007 to 2011, prevailed in the closed-door caucus vote as Democrats held their leadership elections for next year despite a long-simmering insurgency against her bid a rebellion that appeared to crumble in the days leading up to the vote.
"As I say, our diversity is our strength but our unity is our power. We will use that power again in a unifying way for our country," she told reporters.
The 78-year-old California Democrat had faced threats from all corners of her caucus from moderates, from progressives, from members-elect and from younger lawmakers hoping for a generational change. But leading up to Wednesday's vote, following lobbying from Pelosi herself, individuals from each of these factions who had either previously expressed opposition to her or signaled skepticism came out publicly in support...
Renew Deal
(81,881 posts)unblock
(52,352 posts)so you're kinda asking what happens if everyone who didn't vote for the party nominee in the primary refuses to vote for the party nominee in the general. it usually doesn't play out that way.
it looks like the hold outs simply wanted some rule changes, which pelosi has already agreed to, so it seems unlikely they would continue to fight in january.
regardless, there's no real alternative. maybe there will be some more negotiations about rule changes or committee assignments, but it's hard to see this playing out with anyone other than pelosi becoming speaker.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Abstentions don't count when computing a "majority".
Pelosi will be the next Speaker.
OnDoutside
(19,974 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Renew Deal
(81,881 posts)Kablooie
(18,641 posts)Renew Deal
(81,881 posts)Nobody knows apparently.
emulatorloo
(44,192 posts)dem4decades
(11,306 posts)lilactime
(657 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)And vote 'present' in the January vote.
This offer was probably made for those Dems who promised that they would not support Pelosi for Speaker. Technically, they did not.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and underprincipled campaign promises to fulfill them without doing harm.
As for January, the WHOLE house votes for speaker then. Any and every Democrat who genuinely tried to throw power to a candidate the Republicans wanted instead of Pelosi had better be planning on running as a Republican in 2 years, or taking some preagreed payoff and not running for reelection. But that won't happen.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Couldn't agree more.
W_HAMILTON
(7,875 posts)From what I'm reading, the Republicans will have 200 votes in the House, so, assuming all Republicans and no Democrats vote for Kevin McCarthy as speaker, Pelosi would just need to get 201 votes to win the speakership. That means 34 Democrats could simply vote present or withhold their vote and Pelosi would still win, which seems to give her plenty enough leeway for victory.
I'm guessing there will be a lot more handwringing in the media about the final vote until the actual vote takes place in January (or whenever it is), but it sounds like she will most certainly be our next speaker.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)However, if they vote for a person other than Nancy Pelosi, then she wont have a majority.
Tradition says the Speaker needs a majority of votes for a person (with Present not counting.)
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)last time there was a challenge to Pelosi
Cosmocat
(14,575 posts)They can vote present, their vote won't count in the final total, they get to say they didn't vote for Pelosi ...
onenote
(42,778 posts)when it was a private vote.
Four voted against her when the vote was public.
still_one
(92,433 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Gothmog
(145,631 posts)This makes me smile https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/27/1815602/-Pelosi-s-momentum-builds-Voting-against-Pelosi-on-the-floor-is-a-vote-for-the-Republican
Connecticuts Jahana Hayes, who had said she wouldnt support Pelosi, cut right to the chase:
Link to tweet
Illinoiss Jesus Chuy Garcia said in a statement that It is time for Democrats to come together and support a unified agenda of progressive values. I urge my freshman colleagues who are undecided to join me in supporting Leader Pelosi.
According to New Hampshires Chris Pappas, after careful consideration and discussion with many constituents and future colleagues in Congress I believe [Pelosi] is best equipped to lead the House at this point in our history.
Gothmog
(145,631 posts)This story makes me smile. Moulton comes off looking like a putsch https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/26/speaker-nancy-pelosi-revolt-seth-moulton-222686
And yet shes still here.
Pelosi strides into Wednesdays House Democratic Caucus elections with her head held high, and her high heels on Moultons neck. She remains without a Democratic challenger. She has unleashed a wave of support from the Democratic faithful, from Barack Obama on down. She turned two of Moultons allies who had, just days before, stated their opposition to her. A third opponent suggested hell vote for Pelosi on the floor if no other Democratic option emerges. And she has kept several other Serve America PAC alumni from jumping aboard Moultons rickety bandwagon. While Pelosi isnt completely in the clear for the final vote on January 3 on the House floorwith Moulton clinging to 14 fellow holdouts and eight other Democrats in the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus playing hard to getshe unquestionably holds the whip hand.
Dumping a historic figure like Pelosi, the first female speaker, after she weathered a Republican blitzkrieg to help her party win back the House, was always going to be a tall order. (And dont say I didnt warn them!) But Moultons operation has been, to borrow some military jargon, FUBAR. Hes poised to not only lose his battle with the party establishment, but to lose in such humiliating fashion that it could ruin his reputation and douse whatever presidential fires may be burning in his belly.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)For many
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Wintryjade
(814 posts)stopbush
(24,397 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,502 posts)She has the experience. And I think the first half of next year is going to be crazier than hell. Even crazier than the last two years.
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Blue_true
(31,261 posts)What other real alternative do they have.